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***Official*** West Indies in Australia 2015/16

TheJediBrah

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Likely irrelevant, but couldn't help but notice Pattinson's physique has changed significantly, ie. pudgier
 

Daemon

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Yeah he didn't look too flash in the ODIs against England either, even by his low limited overs bowling standards. Hope he's back to his best eventually.

Hate injuries so much. So brutal that your career can take such huge hits based on things you don't have much control over.
 

Hurricane

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Er no. If batsmen deserved to be out every time they missed a ball, tests would be all over in 4 sessions.
This response is too straight laced. Of course you are technically correct and can't be argued with. Nonetheless your answer displays a lack of experience with batting.
In club cricket and with test matches to a lesser extent the nature of your shot effects whether the lbw is upheld or not. It shouldn't be that way. Every lbw should be judged on its merits and whether the ball is hitting the stumps. But umpires are humans and when you take a hoik acrosss the line or get smacked on the crease faffing around like Holder was neither forward nor back then suddenly the appeal starts to look really good.
As a batsman one of your jobs to manage the umpires by not even looking like getting out, so when a 50.50 call comes you get the benefit of the doubt, if you are going to miss balls like Holder did and get smacked in front then you have to accept some responsibility for the ensuing lbw appeal outcome.

Batsman who take accountability for more of their dismissals learn more about cricket and its nuances than batsman that blame bad luck or the umpire when they are out.

I will finish this post with where I started. Of course you are correct Flametree and there is no arguing with your point. My response if just explaining why I made my post.
 
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watson

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Even allowing for the odd play n' miss Darren Bravo's innings was all class and maturity. What a shame he'll never be in a team good enough to help him develop into a real great.

Thank God there's at least one shining light for the Windies in this Test match.
 
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Tangles

International Vice-Captain
Not surprising tbh. Poor effort. So I take it that he wasn't willing to switch his main spinner to bowl in to the wind. You could bowl the spinner from the bad end and have the 2 quicks plus him from the other. Unless the spinner didn't want that end either. Sound like the crap you'd hear in a bad weekend team. You expect more from professionals.
 

Flametree

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This response is too straight laced. Of course you are technically correct and can't be argued with. Nonetheless your answer displays a lack of experience with batting.
In club cricket and with test matches to a lesser extent the nature of your shot effects whether the lbw is upheld or not. It shouldn't be that way. Every lbw should be judged on its merits and whether the ball is hitting the stumps. But umpires are humans and when you take a hoik acrosss the line or get smacked on the crease faffing around like Holder was neither forward nor back then suddenly the appeal starts to look really good.
As a batsman one of your jobs to manage the umpires by not even looking like getting out, so when a 50.50 call comes you get the benefit of the doubt, if you are going to miss balls like Holder did and get smacked in front then you have to accept some responsibility for the ensuing lbw appeal outcome.

Batsman who take accountability for more of their dismissals learn more about cricket and its nuances than batsman that blame bad luck or the umpire when they are out.

I will finish this post with where I started. Of course you are correct Flametree and there is no arguing with your point. My response if just explaining why I made my post.
I get your point but I don't actually think this one was a 50-50 - it was miles high. As a (not very good club) batsman, I would have been beaten all ends up hundreds of times by booming inswingers and off-cutters or spinners, balls which were doing too much to hit the stumps. I'd feel aggrieved to have been given out on them no matter how hapless were my attempts to hit the ball...
 

Gnske

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Apologies if posted, but man that is pretty crap if true.

Roach has done nothing with the ball in ages, so that coming from him especially is very bad.

Poor Holder, he deserves better.:@
Without sounding like one of those 'i knew it first' cliches, I was seriously wondering about their commitment during the Darsh partnership. Guys like Bravo and Ramdin you would presume during a hammering to be in consultation with Holder, or at the very least the bowlers having a chat returning to the run up.

Instead nothing was provided, and arguably the most senior player in Samuels despite being the last person anyone should take advice from was milling around the outfield like a man who would rather be catching hot birds in a Caribbean bar with Gayle right now.

Replace them with Ireland already tbh, at least what they lack in skill they would make up for with genuine interest and care for the game.
 

TheJediBrah

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Without sounding like one of those 'i knew it first' cliches, I was seriously wondering about their commitment during the Darsh partnership. Guys like Bravo and Ramdin you would presume during a hammering to be in consultation with Holder, or at the very least the bowlers having a chat returning to the run up.

Instead nothing was provided, and arguably the most senior player in Samuels despite being the last person anyone should take advice from was milling around the outfield like a man who would rather be catching hot birds in a Caribbean bar with Gayle right now.

Replace them with Ireland already tbh, at least what they lack in skill they would make up for with genuine interest and care for the game.
tbh I think it was pretty obvious to most viewers

they just didn't look like they gave a **** at all
 

Gnske

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Shhh let me bask in my extraordinary god-given ability to read body language.

But yeah it was shocking how little they tried to conceal it
 

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