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**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
this is what the rest of us think about your posts tbf
Tbh lad if anyone takes me more seriously than a poor court jester i'd be quite disappointed.

I get upset whenever someone tries to replicate my subspecies of hyperbolic trash posting.
 

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
eh? all those blokes except philander bowl comfortably over 140 clicks if they're really going for a sharp spell. usually they just sit at a comfy 135 for the control, hardly medium pace.

jerome taylor, kemar roach, wahab riaz, umesh yadav, current dhammika prasad and dare i say it....current ishant sharma are also decent opening bowlers.
What I was trying to get across was that to trouble Warner you really need to be bringing along pace as one of your tools. Outside of seaming conditions he just doesn't look troubled by 135.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Someone like Jono grew up there too but he's a really **** offspinner. Maybe give the bowler some credit for actually being good?
tbf I was too **** to make it to the turf team so played on matting. Also bowled leg spin not off spin, and it bounced too high on the matting and obviously got no variable bounce because there was no rough .Was such a disadvantage.

****ing wahhh.
 

Zinzan

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Um, when has Craig come back and bowled well during this tour?

He bowled well on day 1. His bowling on days 4 & 5 ( i.e. when we really needed them) was rubbish.
Yeah this ^

Why people are so overly protective & precious of criticism aimed at Craig is beyond me. I know he's taken some wickets to take us towards victory in a couple of tests, most notably the Headingley win. Although those who wish to give him credit for Headingley should also concede he was a big reason for the 1st test loss at Lord's, especially his abysmal short spell to Cook in their 2nd innings there. In many ways Williamson was the catalyst in the Headingley victory with his LBW dismissal of Cook in the 2nd dig. Honestly think KW (even post chucking) is at least as good a spinner as Craig.

I think the fact whenever I've seen Craig bowl, he's been utter junk doesn't help my opinion of him. It's been quite uncanny that I seem to miss the spells in which he appears to take wickets, but see him when he lands just 1-2 deliveries an over in the right place. I can't recall a more erratic specialist off-spinner, although clearly I'm missing something.
 
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ohnoitsyou

International Regular
Typically Craig has managed to get a fair bit of dip/drift because he does get a fair few revs on the ball. Yet nearly every ball he has floated up has been middled by the albiet inform batsmen. The ball's being **** is part of the problem, but Craig is quite obviously in very poor form even by his standard.

Yet as piss poor as he had been, its an order of magnitude better than what 20 overs of Santer vs Warner/Smith would look like.
 

Zinzan

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Another thing worth noting to the Craig apologists out there is that his supposedly matching winning 7-94 (and 10 in the match) vs. Pakistan was the Test in which Phil Hughes passed away after day 1 and clearly NZ responded better than Pakistan in that match that frankly neither wanted to play.
 

Prince EWS

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Incidentally, trying to work out the scorecard of the NZ v WA XI game. Looks like we took 11 wickets, but the bowlers breakdown suggests 13 were taken. :wacko:

WA-XI 345 (90.0 ov, TM Beaton 25*, TG Southee 1/44) - Stumps | Live Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Wells and Beaton batted a second time. Guessing it was too much for cricinfo's template, but they made a note of it at the bottom.

Western Australia XI 1st innings: MS Harris allowed to bat twice to make up the numbers
Western Australia XI 1st innings: JW Wells allowed to bat twice to make up the numbers
Western Australia XI 1st innings: TM Beaton allowed to bat twice to make up the numbers
 

TheJediBrah

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Yeah this ^

Why people are so overly protective & precious of criticism aimed at Craig is beyond me. I know he's taken some wickets to take us towards victory in a couple of tests, most notably the Headingley win. Although those who wish to give him credit for Headingley should also concede he was a big reason for the 1st test loss at Lord's, especially his abysmal short spell to Cook in their 2nd innings there. In many ways Williamson was the catalyst in the Headingley victory with his LBW dismissal of Cook in the 2nd dig. Honestly think KW (even post chucking) is at least as good a spinner as Craig.
This is an unequivocal fact

I think the fact whenever I've seen Craig bowl, he's been utter junk doesn't help my opinion of him. It's been quite uncanny that I seem to miss the spells in which he appears to take wickets, but see him when he lands just 1-2 deliveries an over in the right place. I can't recall a more erratic specialist off-spinner, although clearly I'm missing something.
I don't think you are. Where Craig fits in as a cricketer IMO is a decent club-standard batting all-rounder. How he became a Test-match specialist bowler is probably just one of life's freak occurrences.
 

Flem274*

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Tbh lad if anyone takes me more seriously than a poor court jester i'd be quite disappointed.

I get upset whenever someone tries to replicate my subspecies of hyperbolic trash posting.
was being tongue in cheek "lad" as a way of pointing out he who lives in a glass house...:p
What I was trying to get across was that to trouble Warner you really need to be bringing along pace as one of your tools. Outside of seaming conditions he just doesn't look troubled by 135.
Nah, he just doesn't look troubled by crap bowling.

The GOAT bowled 135kph line and length as his stock ball, and he was an Australian bowling on these pitches. It works if you're not spraying it like the New Zealand attack has been.
 

Zinzan

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Typical of Gup to gun it when it's that level down from Test cricket. Just like he did reasonably well opening in English county cricket. Oh well, can't say he's the first struggling to make that step-up.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Please let this be bait.

I refuse to believe the filth you've been spewing from day 1 of this tour is anything but pure chumming of the seas for a few nibbles.
You are a N00b. Try to be friendly when you disagree on CW. And be specific rather than generalising. As it stands your post merely reinforces my already low opinion of Australian manners. You found a post you disagreed with so somehow all my posts are "filth". A trifle OTT in your analysis.
 

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