**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015

[straw man]

Yeah if he struggles he simply won't make this team, whereas in early Southee days there was much less competition. So it may well be back to domestix.

I know this is the kneejerk answer to everything but can we please get him to spend some time with Shane Bond.

 

[Hurricane]

Wonder if Wagner is bowling himself ahead of Henry here. I managed to miss quite a bit of Henry's bowling in Perth though I got the impression there were a couple of promising spells but generally a mixed bag.

I still believe Henry is a huge talent so it will be infuriating if he takes the Southee route to success through 2+ years of sub-mediocrity.

i reckon he might straw man, it's a tough ask to go from the shield to test cricket and succeed immediately. at least we're in a position where we don't have to play him like we were with southee, and he can step down a level.

i wonder if odi bowling (which he's quite good at) plus his third seamer role change are affecting him?

i can't see henry not clicking with a loud clunk one day. he's got everything except extreme pace and he's no dibbly dobbly on the speed gun.

If he ain't got that swing then he ain't got a thing. Doug's phantom swing was bigger than Henry's at the WACCA.

 

[Flem274*]

if mascarenhas doesn't work out (and it's early days) then i have an idea, but try not to laugh too much.

maybe danny morrison? when he talks bowling technique on commentary he's really really good. simon doull is another but i get the impression he's comfortable doing his media stuff. pretty sure morrison has mentioned having a few chats with the NZ swing bowlers when they're in Asia.

edit - @ cane - he's got bounce and used to have great accuracy in the corridor. his length appears to have been adjusted back from his shield days and i wonder if that's brought in the one four ball and over stuff.

everything is there.

 

[Hurricane]

Henry going at 4.88 - he has been consistently the most expensive this tour iirc

 

[Hurricane]

if mascarenhas doesn't work out (and it's early days) then i have an idea, but try not to laugh too much.

maybe danny morrison? when he talks bowling technique on commentary he's really really good. simon doull is another but i get the impression he's comfortable doing his media stuff. pretty sure morrison has mentioned having a few chats with the NZ swing bowlers when they're in Asia.

Like that suggestion. I think the players would really look up to him.

 

[Gnske]

if mascarenhas doesn't work out (and it's early days) then i have an idea, but try not to laugh too much.

maybe danny morrison? when he talks bowling technique on commentary he's really really good. simon doull is another but i get the impression he's comfortable doing his media stuff. pretty sure morrison has mentioned having a few chats with the NZ swing bowlers when they're in Asia.

edit - @ cane - he's got bounce and used to have great accuracy in the corridor. his length appears to have been adjusted back from his shield days and i wonder if that's brought in the one four ball and over stuff.

everything is there.

Morrison, just so I don't hear him aiming for 4 different octaves just to say PaKIstAN

 

[Hurricane]

Chris Martin? Iain O'Brien?

Vaughn Johnson No shouldn't say that he is a nice fellow.

 

[Hurricane]

Vaughn Johnson No shouldn't say that he is a nice fellow.

Actually that whole situation was heart wrenching. BFP will know the inside news but obviously can't tell us on the Internet or b) due to breaching confidences.

 

[straw man]

maybe danny morrison?

Please Danny we'll bowl any way you want for the love of god if you'll just stop talking

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Please Danny we'll bowl any way you want for the love of god if you'll just stop talking

see TIMMEH the KEY is to BOWL the ball in that CORRIDOR of UNCERtainty. THE BATSMAN, gets a little TICKLE, and on his way

 

[Flem274*]

i reckon in 30 years time we're all going to be reminiscing about danny as a loveably terrible commentator rather than just a terrible commentator and we'll all say "those were the good old days".

i haven't heard him consistently since the UAE and i already miss him. needs to be inserted into the channel 9 or saffer boxes as the ultimate troll.

"rossco goes BANG downtown for a maximum thank you very much son! it's all happening here at the adelaayyyyde oval beside my mate the chappell man and the soft english tones of the one and only marrrrrrk nicholas"

 

[Flem274*]

yesssss

"welcome...to fat city!"

 

[Flem274*]

"we've had a full moon not long ago, and the man on the moon has picked this one up and sent it back"

 

[nevermind]

how there are no 10 hour loop danny morrison commentary videos I'll never know

would genuinely love him to do the big bash, preferably always on with mark waugh. i cant see how it wouldn't work

 

[African Monkey]

I'm probably in the very small minority of people who actually doesn't mind Morrison as a commentator. He's like a cricket version of Scotty 'Sumo' Stevenson/Jason Costigan where you either love them or can't stand them.

 

[Hurricane]

Slow night and I was bored so here is my:

Spotlight on David Warner

Average 51 - last two years 64

Where do you actually bowl to this guy?
Well not with width outside off stump is the first answer. It doesn't matter how long you wait for him to nick off, it simply won't happen. Why he doesn't nick off is a mystery to me. He doesn't move his back foot close to the ball so that he is playing close to his body, and he doesn't play particulary late. He does though sometimes go with a horizontal blade which may negate some of the sideways movement.

Right now he is simply H4x.

If test cricket were a 1980s video arcade game then Warner could claim to have clocked the challenges given to an opening batsman.

Warner has almost mastered facing right arm over the wicket bowling. At this stage it simply does not present a challenge to him. Anythng outside off stump is four runs, anything at off stump is defended back along the same line of where it came from towards mid on. Anything on his pads is worked away in a useful fashion. He isn't the strongest off his pads but he doesn't get out lbw very often so there is no point in bowling there.

Round the wicket or left arm over are the only two areas of bowling that he is yet to completely negate. The most successful delivery is the one from somewhat wide on the crease angling in to his off stump. Much like Boult's beauty to dismiss him on 250 odd. But you can tie him up as well if you can't bowl outswingers/pearlers to the left hander. Just fire it in at 4th stump from round the wicket every ball and because he isn't used to that angle of delivery he will look to play it to mid on instead of mid off.

This very slight error of not hitting it back to where it is coming from will lead to him nicking off. And if it doesn't it could frustrate him out as he can't score off deliveries in that zone.
Progress were made against Gilchrist by coming around the wicket and likewise success will occur against David Warner.
The scary part though is that he is likely to adjust and learn - and then what? He will become h4x at all bowling and he could take things to bradmanesque levels of innings vs centuries during his next purple patch.

The other scary part about him is that he has developed some batting IQ. He used to be just about the dumbest batsman I had ever seen. But now after hitting 4 fours in a row he takes 3-4 singles just to consolidate instead of keeping on charging ahead Sehwag style. He also thinks about who he will target and when to back off, and when to turn on the turbo. Yeah incredible transformation in him from a batsmanship perspective.

He has gone from being a "batter" to a "batsman" (and no I am not going to apologise to the PC brigade who want us to use the word batter - batters are sloggers and people who come in as specialist number 8s for your average beer league and play in black shorts and white t shirts with a tui logo on it. If anyone turns up at your club and asks for a game and admits to being a batter tell them about the better club down the road).

Still and nitpicking here, he doesn't have cricketing pedigree, he doesn't know "cricket". But he is learning and learning fast and his propensity for learning is one I havn't seen before out of any player in the world. He must be an absolute sponge for advice and must actually listen to people who do know cricket. E.g. I doubt he consults with Shane warne for batting advice

"I like Warner because he is busy. I like busy cricketers. There is always something happening when Warner is there because he is busy". The fact you are his fan Shane is a negative for David Warner at this point in his career. Instead when you hear more esteemed commentators start to talk about "a well constructed innings" or "a well paced inning when his team needed him" then he will have arrived. But he is close. And yes Flem I concede my long term bet about him.

 

[Bahnz]

I'm probably in the very small minority of people who actually doesn't mind Morrison as a commentator. He's like a cricket version of Scotty 'Sumo' Stevenson/Jason Costigan where you either love them or can't stand them.

Genuinely don't believe he's that bad when commentating on tests, and his T20 commentary borders on "so bad its good" status.

 

[Bahnz]

So Wagner bowling his way back into the mix here you'd imagine. Not entirely sure why Boult isn't bowling today, if there's one thing he needs it's overs under the belt.

Also, Craig continues to be pummeled, legitimately starting to wonder whether Santa might be the better option at Adelaide for the spinners role.

 

[Bahnz]

Wonder if Wagner is bowling himself ahead of Henry here. I managed to miss quite a bit of Henry's bowling in Perth though I got the impression there were a couple of promising spells but generally a mixed bag.

I still believe Henry is a huge talent so it will be infuriating if he takes the Southee route to success through 2+ years of sub-mediocrity.

I just continue to think that Henry is poorly suited to the 3rd seamer's role, and so will struggle to get a gig in the test side while Southee and Boult are around. We've seen the results of his attempts to transform himself into a back of a length 3rd seamer this year, and they haven't been pretty.

 

[hendrix]

I'm probably in the very small minority of people who actually doesn't mind Morrison as a commentator. He's like a cricket version of Scotty 'Sumo' Stevenson/Jason Costigan where you either love them or can't stand them.

Scott Stevenson is ****ing awful. Hate his commentary.