**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015

[jonbrooks]

Despite us getting crushed in this series, if I was a betting man, I'd put money on NZ to win one of the tests in NZ. Purely because our bowlers are NZ condition bowlers i.e. if it swings, we do well.

 

[Gob]

Man, this is an ass pummeling of epic proportions! We are 100% impotent and the Australian juggernaut is unstoppable.

Now that I've got that off my chest, some analysis.

1) NZ bowlers are suited to swinging conditions. If the ball doesn't swing, we're screwed
2) McCullum's "gambling" only pays off if we've got form favouring us. As it stands our bowlers are bowling poorly and Australia are rampant
3) Speaking of form, we are definitely underdone preparation wise
4) Australian bowlers are "in to the deck" bowlers and will do better than NZ bowlers
5) Just in case you didn't get what I was saying, WE'RE SCREWED! :-(

Did pretty well in UAIstan though. Both Trent and Tim had a fair bit success in the sub continent too

 

[Zinzan]

lol as if you'd ignore someone on here. Gotta take the good with the bad all part of the internet

Imagine filtering everything so all you hear is pro-NZ stuff

Pretty much this. Although as I said earlier, if I see 5 paragraphs of what I suspect will be bollocks, it's on to the next...

 

[jcas0167]

I don't want to let anyone down by pointing out that is ****ing ridiculous that we lost a review for a decision that was the direct carbon copy of a dismissal upheld in the first Test. And Nigel Llong gets to hide behind the fact that we used one poor review.

Good thing we're getting flogged anyway and it doesn't really matter. Still maintain the rule needs to change.

Yep, 'umpires call' allows the same event (ball clipping) to be treated differently depending on the umpires imperfect reaction. I think most here agree it should be revised.

 

[Moss]

At least when a pitch is this flat nz should be able to score big, unless the pitch seriously deteriorated it looks like a draw

Two words: scoreboard pressure.

That and the inability of the bowlers to restrict the scoring in any way (thus giving the Australian bowlers all the time in the world) would make the draw a substantial achievement.

 

[jonbrooks]

Easy double ton for Warner before stumps.

 

[Gob]

haha captain Grumpy is tasting it big time now.

 

[Spark]

Two words: scoreboard pressure.

That and the inability of the bowlers to restrict the scoring in any way (thus giving the Australian bowlers all the time in the world) would make the draw a substantial achievement.

Draws are bloody hard to get these days too. Only ones in the last year that I can recall have been fairly close run things.

 

[jonbrooks]

Two words: scoreboard pressure.

That and the inability of the bowlers to restrict the scoring in any way (thus giving the Australian bowlers all the time in the world) would make the draw a substantial achievement.

Agreed, but Australian bowlers are also better suited for the conditions. Unlike our bowlers who rely on swing, the Aussies are "in to the deck" bowlers i.e they hit the deck hard and get something out of it. Our bowlers are more used to "floating" the ball more to get swing.

 

[Skyliner]

2) McCullum's "gambling" only pays off if we've got form favouring us. As it stands our bowlers are bowling poorly and Australia are rampant
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The effect of his gambling / proactive captaincy is always overstated in the NZ media, particularly by Ian Smith who has been highly influential in building the cult of personality around Baz.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Crazy that this top three is already equal with the record for the most centuries by a top three in any test series of any length, in the first innings of the second test.

 

[jonbrooks]

haha captain Grumpy is tasting it big time now.

Captain Grumpy has rode his luck for a while now. He is at the tail end of his career and has used up all his tricks. Not much left for him. Go out, smash the ball, lose 3 - 0.

 

[Spark]

Crazy that this top three is already equal with the record for the most centuries by a top three in any test series of any length, in the first innings of the second test.

For real? Geez.

 

[jonbrooks]

The effect of his gambling / proactive captaincy is always overstated in the NZ media, particularly by Ian Smith who has been highly influential in building the cult of personality around Baz.

I don't think it is overstated. He is definitely a gambler. What people who have not followed him might think is his gambling pays off more often then not. This is not true.

 

[Dan]

They need Coriander Son as a golden arm IMO.

 

[jcas0167]

The review is meant to prevent howlers, not for 50/50 decisions. Given so much is going against us it would have been nice if we've had gotten one of these 50/50 calls but it's all going Australia's way. Having said that it would not have made much difference in the context of the game me thinks.

Which is exactly why it would make more sense for a consistent approach? If it's clipping the stumps on replay it should either always be out, or always not out. Instead you're left to the randomness of the umpire's immediate reaction which isn't very reliable. You're never going to get perfection, but this is something that could be improved on.

 

[Zinzan]

I don't want to let anyone down by pointing out that is ****ing ridiculous that we lost a review for a decision that was the direct carbon copy of a dismissal upheld in the first Test. And Nigel Llong gets to hide behind the fact that we used one poor review.

Possibly, but the alternative is the Umps just become mere ornaments who stand their to hold the bowlers cap and sweater (considering no-balls can be checked on wickets.) If that's what you want, then you should make it clear and say so.

 

[Skyliner]

You take the sword. I'll take the pistol. Savvy?

Plural, not singular. Capiche?

 

[SteveNZ]

The review is meant to prevent howlers, not for 50/50 decisions. Given so much is going against us it would have been nice if we've had gotten one of these 50/50 calls but it's all going Australia's way. Having said that it would not have made much difference in the context of the game me thinks.

Completely agree on the context of the game, but I still think it needs amending to at least not losing your review. The nonsense Burns one, no doubt we needed to lose.

 

[adub]

Won't be a draw here unless it pissed down for two days. Kiwaaahhhhs are kidding themselves if they think the Aussies won't get a lot more out of this deck. Even today they would have done much more, but it's going to break up and be hard work later on.