the big bambino
Cricketer Of The Year
Well Mad dog is bold but the rest aint so crazy. Can see Moises in there tbf.
-
Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
Australian test selection thread 2015/16
- Thread starter Red
- Start date
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Starc had a fair whinge about how much he hates the pink ball so I reckon it's unlikely.
Gnske
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
This is probably the most logical choice, but you just know Darsh the Undying will oust Bancroft.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
Think that had more to do with him being unable to see it fielding from the boundary.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
Actually agree with this.
Reckon Smith'll go fine whether he's at #3 or #4, but for some reason I feel better with someone else at 3 (Burns or Khawaja) and Smith at 4.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Except unlike when Ponting moved to # 3 in Ashes 01, Smith won't have the calibre of batting like Waugh brothers/Martyn/Lehamm/Katich/Hussey/Clarke behind him
adub
International Captain
If say you were dead set on picking Cowan and Bancroft you might consider it and then just stick Bankers at 5/6 and leave Smitteh at 3. All the rest of the candidates (and most especially Smarsh) either open or bat after Smith to me.
Yes Smith can get out cheap on occasion (an reminds me of no one more than Ponting in doing it), but he's also the guy who I think gets motoring and dominating faster than anyone else. Nothing eases the pain of an early wicket quite like seeing your no.3 come in and turn the pain back on the bowlers. That's what Smith can do for us.
With Clarkeh I always had the feeling if he was batting higher than 5 he was a spot too high. Same with Huss and Tugger. They just seemed to suit that 5/6 role. I don't get that feeling at all with Smith. He just feels an out and out 3 and one of the best ever at that. If he's batting at 4 it just feels a spot too low for him at this point.
Yes Smith can get out cheap on occasion (an reminds me of no one more than Ponting in doing it), but he's also the guy who I think gets motoring and dominating faster than anyone else. Nothing eases the pain of an early wicket quite like seeing your no.3 come in and turn the pain back on the bowlers. That's what Smith can do for us.
With Clarkeh I always had the feeling if he was batting higher than 5 he was a spot too high. Same with Huss and Tugger. They just seemed to suit that 5/6 role. I don't get that feeling at all with Smith. He just feels an out and out 3 and one of the best ever at that. If he's batting at 4 it just feels a spot too low for him at this point.
adub
International Captain
No, but whoever was coming in after Punter had started tearing them a new one was instantly having their lives made so much easier. Having a weaker list to choose from is no reason to push one of them up in front of the World's No.1 ranked bat who has shown that he can deliver big scores at 3. It's an argument for giving them a bit more protection lower in the order if anything.
No way on God's green earth would I feel more secure having a Burns, Khawaja, or God Forbid a SMarsh coming out at 1/0 on the second ball of the innings than I would seeing S Smith coming out the gate. Yes he failed in that instance at Trent Bridge, but I would argue that was more due to over-confidence than any glaring failure against the new ball. His response at the Oval (granted coming in at 1/110 is very different) showed that he'd corrected his problem of getting too far to off too early in his innings which had got him into trouble at Edgbaston and TB.
He's just too good not to trust with No. 3. and a great No.3 scoring runs does far more for your side's balance than trying to manufacture a new No.3 in order to push a guy who is confident and excels at the spot down one.
Spikey
Request Your Custom Title Now!
this just makes me want to pick maxwell and mad dog tbh
Spark
Global Moderator
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
The Punter on point.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
It happens all the time in test history Border/Chanderpaul/Lara/Clarke/Dudley Nourse/Polly Umrigar as good examples of guys who were clearly their teams best batsman and could have batten at three - but the weak overall circumstances of the team meant they batted @ # 5, to give the team a more balanced look.
Whether Ponting had never moved to # 3 in Ashes 2001, it would not have made much a difference to how the other top quality middle-order batsman AUS had performed because when Langer played there for a while and struggled a bit, the other guys still made runs when they had their turn.
Of course I'd agree in this post Ashes rebuilding phase confidence in guys like Khawaja/Burns would have to be earned (I definitely won't trust S Marsh coming at 3, don't think he should be picked at all) - but that's the reality of the situation.
dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
Anything under 17rpo with the red ball is a pipe dream.