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***Official*** South Africa in India 2015

Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Rohit performing under pressure like you'd expect from one of the best ODI openers in the world. Cop it *****
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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Black_Warrior said:
This is the problem with Kohli coming in at this stage of the game in a match like this. He is just not used to batting in situations like these.
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I don't even think it's so much that. Kohli's still going to be better than most in this situation IMO. The problem is the opportunity cost: what he provides at three in chases. If he'd got the start Rahane did he would have been much less likely to throw it away, and coming in now with the run rate pressure as it is was going to be harder for any batsman than coming in when Rahane did. The opportunity to get set with less pressure earlier in the innings has kind of been wasted now.

I think you have to give Kohli a proper opportunity to get set in chases because he's so good at taking it deep. It's true with Dhoni too to an extent but I can see why they'd want to protect him from the new ball as well, which isn't as important with Kohli.
 
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Prince EWS said:
I don't even think it's so much that. Kohli's still going to be better than most in this situation IMO. The problem is the opportunity cost: what he provides at three in chases. If he'd got the start Rahane did he would have been much less likely to throw it away, and coming in now with the run rate pressure as it is was going to be harder for any batsman than coming in when Rahane did. The opportunity to get set with less pressure earlier in the innings has kind of been wasted now.

I think you have to give Kohli a proper opportunity to get set in chases because he's so good at taking it deep. It's true with Dhoni too to an extent but I can see why they'd want to protect him from the new ball as well, which isn't as important with Kohli.
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Yep. If Kohli had got the start Rahane did at 3 today, SA were dead and buried.
 
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Jono said:
Rohit performing under pressure like you'd expect from one of the best ODI openers in the world. Cop it *****
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Completely misconstruing my issue with Rohit, but okay sure.

Prince EWS said:
I don't even think it's so much that. Kohli's still going to be better than most in this situation IMO. The problem is the opportunity cost: what he provides at three in chases. If he'd got the start Rahane did he would have been much less likely to throw it away, and coming in now with the run rate pressure as it is was going to be harder for any batsman than coming in when Rahane did. The opportunity to get set with less pressure earlier in the innings has kind of been wasted now.

I think you have to give Kohli a proper opportunity to get set in chases because he's so good at taking it deep. It's true with Dhoni too to an extent but I can see why they'd want to protect him from the new ball as well, which isn't as important with Kohli.
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I agree Kohli needs to come in earlier, but the only way he does that is by batting three.

If he bats at three, then you have Rahane coming in at situations like this, and he is a lot less suited to these situations than Kohli is.

In an ideal scenario you have Rahane opening and Kohli at three, but then you got to drop one of Dhawan and Rohit, and that's going to be unfair to both of them. India also doesn't have any batsman available who could do a job at number 4 - Kohli and Rahane are literally the two best choices for the role.

It's a tricky problem. I hope they persist with this order for a few games and decide what to do based on the results.

Jesus christ MSD don't run yourself out plz.
 
Contra

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
***** said:
Completely misconstruing my issue with Rohit, but okay sure.


I agree Kohli needs to come in earlier, but the only way he does that is by batting three.

If he bats at three, then you have Rahane coming in at situations like this, and he is a lot less suited to these situations than Kohli is..
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The situation wouldn't be like this because Kohli would have scored much more in 82 balls than Rahane did, that's the point.
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Gavaskar acknowledging that every poll that is shown comparing countries is meaningless since India have the population to skew it :laugh:
 
cnerd123

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Contra said:
The situation wouldn't be like this because Kohli would have scored much more in 82 balls than Rahane did, that's the point.
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Um there have been situations like this loads of times in the past. Rahane and Rayudu flopped more often than not.

We're really missing someone like Yuvraj.

Nohit killing it now tho.
 
Contra

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
Rohit is a monster 100 maker, I think his last few hundreds have always been 130+ scores..
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Nohit is such a **** nickname, and you know it because it was made up by ****ty Indian fans.
 
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