sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Yeah, pretty lolsy.
Edit: May as well discount all the matches that happened on Smackdown as well, because those aren't worth **** these days either. #solomonster
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*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II
- Thread starter GIMH
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Edit: May as well discount all the matches that happened on Smackdown as well, because those aren't worth **** these days either. #solomonster
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
RE: Rollins, you can say whatever you like about whether he is a draw or whether his gimmick is to be the cowardly heel. But irrespective of all that, there's no way you should have your world champ taking clean pins and tapping out on weekly TV shows as frequenty as he has been made to, imo. The fact that hs has become so great is basically in spite of the way he has been booked, not because of it, and whenever that sort of thing has happened it's generally a good indication that something has not been done as it should have been.
I really wish they would actually try and position him and one other guy as the main focus of the shows though. I, and apparently millions of others, have very little interest in seeing Cena jobbing out his latest opponent, or Kane returning with his mask on for the millionth time (and I say that as a fan of both guys), and that being positioned as the big selling point of the show. Somewhere else on the shows, yeah maybe. But It'd be great to see something original. Novel concept I know.
I really wish they would actually try and position him and one other guy as the main focus of the shows though. I, and apparently millions of others, have very little interest in seeing Cena jobbing out his latest opponent, or Kane returning with his mask on for the millionth time (and I say that as a fan of both guys), and that being positioned as the big selling point of the show. Somewhere else on the shows, yeah maybe. But It'd be great to see something original. Novel concept I know.
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Athlai
Not Terrible
Hoping we get Kofi answering the US open challenge next week and going over Cena dirty. Rematch at HIAC.
Cena's rumored to want some time off and would help position New Day as a Shield 2.0 style main-event stable. No idea where you go with Rollins from here, I'm enjoying this Kane/Rollins feud, but after HIAC there really isn't anything more you can do with it.
Maybe Reigns is finally ready to come into the title-frame?
Cena's rumored to want some time off and would help position New Day as a Shield 2.0 style main-event stable. No idea where you go with Rollins from here, I'm enjoying this Kane/Rollins feud, but after HIAC there really isn't anything more you can do with it.
Maybe Reigns is finally ready to come into the title-frame?
Athlai
Not Terrible
OverratedSanity
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He's still losing too much though. The champion shouldn't be losing constantly to the secondary title holder, who then goes on to say he's the man to beat.
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Sure. They don't need to keep reminding us of that and make him constantly go over the actual champ. That's stupid.
Athlai
Not Terrible
I mean, he probably won't now that they've worked through Rollins holding both championships.
I honestly think the Rollins vs. Cena storyline was fine. It just would have been nice if they could have had DBry as the Intercontinental champion so they could have done this story as originally intended. Ryback isn't exactly a champion of champions.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
The only time that it matters when the champ loses is when the big one is on the line. Nobody ever says Flair lost too much and he lost to every ****
But regardless. Whatever you think of Seth's recent booking (and I'm not saying it's great ftr, more of a devil's advocate thing), including house shows in that is absurd
duffer
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Yep, just that I'm finding it all so confusing, and if I'm confused then I assume the audience would be as well and if the audience is confused there won't be much or any reaction to what happens.
Meh regarding Seth though, called it months ago. What I couldn't call was the whole Ziggler/Lana/Rusev?Summer angle would get any more embarrassing, but hey looks like it did.
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I really wish you'd drop it with the flair comparison. What worked for Flair doesn't work for every heel champion ever.
I do agree counting house shows doesn't make sense since they're basically non-canon anyway, but he really shouldn't be losing this much. It also doesn't help that his title defences are against over the hill 50 year olds.
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Really liking the viciousness New Day showed this week. They need to keep them a fun heel team but have them go psycho when they lose it from time to time. So little else has been worth watching recently. Haven't sat through a full raw beginning to end for months tbh.
harsh.ag
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Yeah, we really should have been having a Rollins-Punk-Bryan going right now. Would have been incredible.
sledger
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Someone on Pro Wrestling Torch (possibly Wade Keller, I can't remember) made a good point about the way the RAW shows are structured the other day. The way the RAW shows are 3 hours at the moment kind of mean a drop off in the third hour is probably inevitable, but it's probably made worse by the fact that when they have guys like Lesnar on, they usually open with them or put them out early, and then once their segment is over that's it. Done. One appearance and that's your lot. Brock goes to the back and then jets off back home, and people know this.
When the viewer knows that the big star's appearance for the night is done, what incentive is there to keep on watching? I mean, (notwithstanding the fact that Lesnar's segment on RAW the other night was pretty underwhelming) once everyone knows that the biggest attraction has made his appearance are they really going to be incentivised to hang around by promises that coming up next is Seth Rollins being harrassed by a guy who's not been credible for about ten years, and John Cena facing (i.e. beating clean) someone or other in another maaaaiiiinnn event? Can't say I'd blame them if they weren't.
When the viewer knows that the big star's appearance for the night is done, what incentive is there to keep on watching? I mean, (notwithstanding the fact that Lesnar's segment on RAW the other night was pretty underwhelming) once everyone knows that the biggest attraction has made his appearance are they really going to be incentivised to hang around by promises that coming up next is Seth Rollins being harrassed by a guy who's not been credible for about ten years, and John Cena facing (i.e. beating clean) someone or other in another maaaaiiiinnn event? Can't say I'd blame them if they weren't.