Days of Grace
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If a consensus can't be reached in here that Bevan would have a much higher strike-rate if he was playing today then I will lose faith in the human race.
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Who would you rather have come in at No. 6 for your team with 15 overs to go?
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morgieb
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In fairness it's only one guy arguing otherwise.
kiwiviktor81
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No, if a team is at risk of being bowled out then it's better to have players with high averages, even if their strike rates are poor. Strike rate only becomes important once you last the 50.
As I have said at least ten, if not twelve times on this thread already.
kiwiviktor81
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Literally no-one is arguing that Bevan would necessarily have the same SR. The question is by how much it would differ, and in what situations.
Daemon
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- You've accepted that you would take Bevan in the team based on his first innings stats
- You have a problem with his second innings stats because his SR is too low
- Bevan is known to be one of the best chasers the game has seen. Maybe his SR was low in those situations because he would time chases to perfection while minimizing any unnecessary risks?
- Thus there's no reason his second innings stats can't be similar to the first if the situation demanded it
- Since they would likely be similar, you will welcome him with open arms into the NZ ODI XI
- You have a problem with his second innings stats because his SR is too low
- Bevan is known to be one of the best chasers the game has seen. Maybe his SR was low in those situations because he would time chases to perfection while minimizing any unnecessary risks?
- Thus there's no reason his second innings stats can't be similar to the first if the situation demanded it
- Since they would likely be similar, you will welcome him with open arms into the NZ ODI XI
kiwiviktor81
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Seems reasonable. What about Bevan vs. Maxwell in an Aussie ATG XI at 6? You know, the question that started this whole ****fight?
OverratedSanity
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yep. This **** isn't rocket science, kiwiviktor. In fact I'm going to abbreviate your name to KW from now on. Would be very fitting now I think about it.
Daemon
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Who is this Aussie ATG XI playing? If it's anyone of an equal standard then replace NZ ODI XI in my post with Aussie ATG XI.
harsh.ag
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We can discuss this when Maxwell can do something like this:
Or this: 5th Match: Australia v West Indies at Sydney, Jan 1, 1996 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Or this: 10th Match: Australia v New Zealand at Melbourne, Jan 29, 2002 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
TheJediBrah
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- You criticize Bevan's Strike Rate
- You are shown that his lower strike rate is a result mostly of second innings, and smaller run chases where higher strike rates weren't necessary
- You are shown that his first innings SR is about the same as Williamson et al, despite playing in a different era
I just can't comprehend where you're coming from
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kiwiviktor81
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OK, let's wait until Maxwell has played 232 ODIs to continue this discussion.
By the way, the second match you listed - Maxwell played a better innings just the other day.
OverratedSanity
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It was a good innings but nope. The 3 harsh listed are among the best ever played in LOIs.
kiwiviktor81
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It probably would have been if Bailey hadn't gone all Michael Bevan at the end there.
Bevan hit 2 sixes for every thousand balls he faced. He's not going to be a hitter in an ATG team.
AndyZaltzHair
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And they said nobody was blaming Bailey for the loss...
Migara
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Probably 65(120) might do if you have a decent slogger at the other end. But I would prefer a 65(70) batsman with no-nonsense mode. (Ex. Dhoni)
Furball
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And you're aware Bevan struck at over 80 in 1st innings aren't you?
