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***Official*** Australia in Ireland and England 2015 (limited overs)

TheJediBrah

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This whole "cake" vs "icing" debate has tended to ignore that a lot of players can play both roles well

Bailey's had his share of smashing quick 50s, and an hour or 2 ago Dan was saying Wade should bat higher because he's cake, and now he's just come in and smashed a 26 ball 50
 

91Jmay

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Clipping leg probably, very full so fair enough i think. Hales could be odd man out with Root returning.
 

stephen

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Plumb as really. Cummins is special isn't he?

That second one I think was out too.

EDIT: hit higher than I thought.
 

wpdavid

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Clipping leg probably, very full so fair enough i think. Hales could be odd man out with Root returning.
Wouldn't surprise me; he's been dire all series. It's the same old juggle between giving a guy a decent run in the side and recognising when he isn't up to it.
My worry with Hales is that he doesn't even score at much of a lick when he does stick around. Just doesn't look good enough tbh.
 

LegionOfBrad

International Debutant
Wouldn't surprise me; he's been dire all series. It's the same old juggle between giving a guy a decent run in the side and recognising when he isn't up to it.
My worry with Hales is that he doesn't even score at much of a lick when he does stick around. Just doesn't look good enough tbh.
Compo with a supreme 149 in front of some of the selectors at lords today #teamcompo #scenes
 

91Jmay

International Coach
I know most aren't fans of Roy on here but he has looked excellent at times and much better than Hales who has now got 3 notable scores in 19 games.
 

TheJediBrah

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I know Cummins got a wicket with a fully but his stock is banging it in and he shouldn't forget why
 

Prince EWS

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I know most aren't fans of Roy on here but he has looked excellent at times and much better than Hales who has now got 3 notable scores in 19 games.
Yeah I still think Roy looks a bit crap, but the notable thing is that he does actually look better at this level with every game he plays. He's certainly earned a run to prove me wrong. Hales on the other hand seems to be getting inside his own head and going backwards so I don't think continuing to select him is doing him any favours.
 

Dan

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Yeah I still think Roy looks a bit crap, but the notable thing is that he does actually look better at this level with every game he plays. He's certainly earned a run to prove me wrong. Hales on the other hand seems to be getting inside his own head and going backwards so I don't think continuing to select him is doing him any favours.
Neither of 'em are any good.

Open with Vince and Moeen in ODIs; its a nice balance of taking advantage early and setting a platform at a decent clip.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Yeah I still think Roy looks a bit crap, but the notable thing is that he does actually look better at this level with every game he plays. He's certainly earned a run to prove me wrong. Hales on the other hand seems to be getting inside his own head and going backwards so I don't think continuing to select him is doing him any favours.
Roy looks like the kind of player who is never in because he has a stupid shot in his locker out if nowhere. Reckon he can be a serviceable opener for a bit though.
Hales looks like he is trying to be a Test player before he is an ODI player. Very strange.
 

Prince EWS

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Neither of 'em are any good.

Open with Vince and Moeen in ODIs; its a nice balance of taking advantage early and setting a platform at a decent clip.
Yeah look I don't really believe in Roy as such either but I think he's earned a run to prove me (and especially you :laugh: ) wrong given he looks more comfortable every game. As Marcuss said the other day, he certainly wouldn't be the first opener I'd drop right now. I actually still think their best (or second best) ODI opener is Cook, but playing lots of ODIs isn't great for his Test game and it probably wouldn't be a great fit for the cake-icing balance of this side either. I'd roll with Mooen+Roy for a little while.
 

Dan

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Yeah look I don't really believe in Roy as such either but I think he's earned a run to prove me (and especially you :laugh: ) wrong given he looks more comfortable every game. As Marcuss said the other day, he certainly wouldn't be the first opener I'd drop right now. I actually still think their best (or second best) ODI opener is Cook, but playing lots of ODIs isn't great for his Test game and it probably wouldn't be a great fit for the cake-icing balance of this side either. I'd roll with Mooen+Roy for a little while.
Yeah, I'm fine for him to get a decent run in the side; he hasn't been lolbad as an opener. But I just cannot see him making it long-term -- or even if he does, he's never quite going to be good enough to make meaningful contributions when it matters most. He might even come out with nice-looking stats, like an English Aaron Finch.
 

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