***Official*** Australia in Ireland and England 2015 (limited overs)

[LegionOfBrad]

Harder to critisise today as he got some runs but sometimes his shot selection leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

Seriously, Stoinis and Wade are both cake-y batsmen. Maxwell and Marsh are not. I can accept batting Maxwell ahead of 'em because you rate him a better bat, but ffs, this isn't time to make an upside-down cake.

Look, I understand you say this isn't the thread for it. That is okay. But this is where I think you miss the modern evolution of ODI thinking with regard middle order and engine room. Give the higher SR players more balls. If they fail, you have the safer options to follow with lower SR.

Its about efficiency in achieving the highest possible total most often. Its like having Duminy bat after Miller and Roussow - despite averaging more than them and being far more cakey.

I have said my piece now.

 

[Prince EWS]

Seriously, Stoinis and Wade are both cake-y batsmen. Maxwell and Marsh are not. I can accept batting Maxwell ahead of 'em because you rate him a better bat, but ffs, this isn't time to make an upside-down cake.

Haha upside-down cake! I like it.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I think this was an ordinary innings from Bailey tbh. He just slowed down so much in the second half of his innings, as he often does. Bizarre. If not for Maxwell at the end Aus would be in big trouble.

Poor shot selection there.

I'm not going to decry people getting out reverse sweeping simply because its a reverse sweep (for Maxwell it definitely is a 'normal' shot), but that wasn't the ball for it.

You can't really always "pick the right ball" to reverse sweep. You almost have to start doing it before the bowlers even let go of the ball. What he should have done is adjusted when the ball was obviously not there to be hit.

Look, I understand you say this isn't the thread for it. That is okay. But this is where I think you miss the modern evolution of ODI thinking with regard middle order and engine room. Give the higher SR players more balls. If they fail, you have the safer options to follow with lower SR.

Its about efficiency in achieving the highest possible total most often. Its like having Duminy bat after Miller and Roussow - despite averaging more than them and being far more cakey.

I have said my piece now.

This is why I don't want to see Maxwell bat any lower than 5. It will win you more games than lose.

 

[NUFAN]

Oh beautiful forward defensive from Stoinis.

 

[Spikey]

Jesse Hogan ‏@Jesse_Hogan 28s28 seconds ago
But Stoinis' first reverse sweep sees him caught at deep gully. Gone for 4. #engvaus



is this truly something that happened?

 

[Zinzan]

What the? I step out for 20 mins....

 

[NUFAN]

Too many Victorians in this lineup.

Finch Maxwell Wade Stoinis Hastings Pattinson is about 4 too many.

 

[91Jmay]

That Stonis looks pretty terrible. Obviously he hasn't had a lot of cricket but his thought processes look completely befuddled.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I'm honestly not sure how Stoinis has ended up on a tour let alone in the Australian Cricket Team

One of life's mysteries

 

[TheJediBrah]

Tom Moody: "New south wales has 100% New South Welshman"

Nevill (Vic), Carters (ACT), Watson (Qld), Lyon (ACT)

that's just off the top of my head

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Cool name though.

 

[91Jmay]

Superb striking but terrible bowling . Just putting it there.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Look, I understand you say this isn't the thread for it. That is okay. But this is where I think you miss the modern evolution of ODI thinking with regard middle order and engine room. Give the higher SR players more balls. If they fail, you have the safer options to follow with lower SR.

Its about efficiency in achieving the highest possible total most often. Its like having Duminy bat after Miller and Roussow - despite averaging more than them and being far more cakey.

I have said my piece now.

By doing it you are putting pressure on the cakes if higher SR players fail. The cakes can't fail in this situation whereas they can build an innings coming earlier and they know that strikers are sitting in the dug out. SR is high for a reason. These guys play high risk shots and cricket. By stacking them high in the order, you are preparing for a fail safe situation.

 

[Prince EWS]

Lyon (ACT)

 

[Prince EWS]

He moved to Canberra to get a gig in the Futures League. He's from South Australia's main catchment area ie. country NSW.

 

[NUFAN]

I'm honestly not sure how Stoinis has ended up on a tour let alone in the Australian Cricket Team

One of life's mysteries

Yep. It is annoying though as I genuinely think he can eventually be a useful red-ball cricketer. A few quiet ODI games can put him even further down the pecking order and/or lose confidence.

Considering we play Marsh and Maxwell in our top six, and we have decent bats from 9 through 11 it just seems like an odd choice picking the 8th (at best, best bat) and sixth best bowler in a team.

This has been good from Hastings. Always fun to watch at the batting crease.

 

[wpdavid]

They could still end up close to 300 at this rate.

Not that I've seen any of it. How did Willey bowl? His figures at the start of the innings are terrific.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Just realised Agar isn't playing. Surely Australia didn't drop him for someone like Stoinis, especially on a turning pitch.


Is he injured?

Yeah I wasn't sure about that one lol

 

[TheJediBrah]

They could still end up close to 300 at this rate.

Not that I've seen any of it. How did Willey bowl? His figures at the start of the innings are terrific.

Not as good as the figures suggest, but still pretty impressive. The benificiary of some variable swing and poor batting.

Looks a very good prospect in seaming/swinging conditions, but could be crucified in batting friendly/overseas conditions.