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*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
I think Corey Graves has become my favourite commentator. A new take on a very old school type of heel commentary. Would love to hear him on Smackdown. Let King be King, and have Saxton and Graves be the face/heel commentators.
 
Spikey

Spikey

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The New Day and Owens seem to be basically ignoring the whole "ignore the crowd/don't interact with the crowd" thing that most of the superstars seem to have to adhere to, and oh my god they're funny and over and entertaining . (Cesaro and his section applies too, I guess)

(also when you look at old CM Punk stuff, he seems to be breaking these little rules all over the place)
 
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Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
Owens is great at getting the crowd to what he wants, reminds me of Jericho. Doesn't only get the audience too boo him but gets the audience to cheer his opponent. Rollins is good but you can't teach that.

Ba da boom realist guy in the room. How you doin
 
King Pietersen

King Pietersen

International Captain
Spikey said:
The New Day and Owens seem to be basically ignoring the whole "ignore the crowd/don't interact with the crowd" thing that most of the superstars seem to have to adhere to, and oh my god they're funny and over and entertaining . (Cesaro and his section applies too, I guess)

(also when you look at old CM Punk stuff, he seems to be breaking these little rules all over the place)
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They're doing a great job, easily my 2 favourite things about the product at the moment. New Day have done such a good job turning their act around, and proved that even if you get lumbered with a dodgy gimmick, if you're talented enough you'll succeed, and there's no doubting the talent of Big E, Kofi and Woods. Hope they keep them together for a while, they're so, so good. Can't wait to see how the feud plays out with the Dudley's.
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
King Pietersen said:
They're doing a great job, easily my 2 favourite things about the product at the moment. New Day have done such a good job turning their act around, and proved that even if you get lumbered with a dodgy gimmick, if you're talented enough you'll succeed, and there's no doubting the talent of Big E, Kofi and Woods. Hope they keep them together for a while, they're so, so good. Can't wait to see how the feud plays out with the Dudley's.
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The gimmick was never a problem. The fact that they were pushed as faces was the issue.
 
OverratedSanity

OverratedSanity

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sledger said:
The gimmick was never a problem. The fact that they were pushed as faces was the issue.
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Well, technically it was. They played their gimmick so straight faced and boring that it just sucked enormous balls. After going heel, they've turned the volume upto 11 which is why it's worked. For some reason, being a face in WWE in this era means your gimmick needs to be devoid of personality and charisma.
 
D

Dan

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Yeah now it feels like they've been given license to, well, be exaggerated versions of themselves within the gimmick.
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
OverratedSanity said:
Well, technically it was. They played their gimmick so straight faced and boring that it just sucked enormous balls. After going heel, they've turned the volume upto 11 which is why it's worked. For some reason, being a face in WWE in this era means your gimmick needs to be devoid of personality and charisma.
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Yeah, fair enough I guess. And yeah, this is a pretty severe problem with characters who start of as faces, and it has been for as long as I can really remember tbh. Pretty much all of the top WWE guys over the last twenty years have started off as heels, including those who wrestled most of their careers as faces.

The momentum generated by a heel turning to a face for the first time is something that is pretty precious itbt.
 
GIMH

GIMH

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No idea if the plan was always to turn them heel (assume not) but will say they wouldn't have been as successful had they always been heel. What made them click with the current gimmick was the way they used the fact they were getting heat as good guys.
 
Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
GIMH said:
No idea if the plan was always to turn them heel (assume not) but will say they wouldn't have been as successful had they always been heel. What made them click with the current gimmick was the way they used the fact they were getting heat as good guys.
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They wanted to be heel from the start but it was never the plan.mthey just did the best with what they had been given.
 
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