Combined Ashes XI after 4 tests

[GIMH]

Look maybe am biased on the Haze/Starc thing, but Finn ahead of Anderson is madness. Finn has performed excellently in one test this summer, where Jimmy also had a stellar game. His spell at Edgbaston first dig was every bit as series defining, in terms of the result, as Broad's at TB. He therefore also gets in ahead of Haze at the very least, and I would say Starc too.<br> 

 

[Zinzan]

Look maybe am biased on the Haze/Starc thing, but Finn ahead of Anderson is madness. Finn has performed excellently in one test this summer, where Jimmy also had a stellar game. His spell at Edgbaston first dig was every bit as series defining, in terms of the result, as Broad's at TB. He therefore also gets in ahead of Haze at the very least, and I would say Starc too.<br>*

This is an XI based on the English test summer to date, not based on their careers, so it's not that strange to think Finn has been more impressive in his 3 tests than Jimmy has in his 5.

As I said above, Jimmy had beautiful conditions to bowl in at Headingley vs. NZ, so not sure the fact he missed TB puts him at such a disadvantage.

 

[social]

The only downside to Jimmeh was that he was totally ineffectual in good batting conditions at Lords #that'sthewayherolls

But it's rare when he isn't the first paceman picked in England and this isn't one of those times

 

[social]

Hard to justify Cook's selection on captaincy alone unless it's an Ashes XI - let him captain, bat him at 5 (no-one else) and hope someone runs the **** out

 

[Zinzan]

The only downside to Jimmeh was that he was totally ineffectual in good batting conditions at Lords #that'sthewayherolls

But it's rare when he isn't the first paceman picked in England and this isn't one of those times

Perhaps I should have been clearer. The XI is supposed to be based on performances this English summer, not based on the best team you can pick from the 3 sides generally. If that was the criteria, Jimmy would make it.

 

[GIMH]

This is an XI based on the English test summer to date, not based on their careers, so it's not that strange to think Finn has been more impressive in his 3 tests than Jimmy has in his 5.

As I said above, Jimmy had beautiful conditions to bowl in at Headingley vs. NZ, so not sure the fact he missed TB puts him at such a disadvantage.

Yeah I understand that but Finn hasn't been more impressive than Anderson. In the one match where Finn shone, Jimmy did too, and though Finn was a deserved MOTM, it was Anderson's first innings sixfer that win us that game

In the other games he's played, Finn has not done enough to have outperformed Anderson. IMO

 

[hendrix]

Yeah Anderson's had 3-4 really good matches, Finn has had one good match and one ok match.

 

[Howe_zat]

It would be a stretch to suggest Anderson's had 4 good matches.

 

[GIMH]

It would be a stretch to suggest Anderson's had 4 good matches.

Hes had one excellent match, a few decent (both NZ games but more the Headingley one, and Cardiff) and one poor game

 

[Howe_zat]

I thought you were just talking about the Ashes and considered I was mental.

 

[marc71178]

No, apparently the Ashes includes NZ as well now

 

[NUFAN]

No, apparently the Ashes includes NZ as well now

England gets help from Wales, only fair that we get some help from our slightly slow but lovable brother too.

 

[Furball]

Slightly non-Ashes related, but what about the best XI of the English test summer to date?

Rogers
Cook *
Williamson
Smith
Root
Stokes
Watling +
Broad
Hazel/Starc/Finn
Lyon
Boult

Handy side.

Take it to the English Test Summer subbie then.