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*Official* Fourth Test at Trent Bridge

Spark

Global Moderator
It didn't really matter because we had our opening bowlers at the crease, which is probably the only reason you should declare in the first innings

Agree that praising it for being 'aggressive' is pretty worthless.
It's a decent petty troll, though. "Ha, we're not even gonna let you take 10 wickets"
 

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
If the selectors want to get funky for the last test then I'd prefer it was interesting and not Watson, Siddle or Cummins. I also don't want Forkers or Maxwell. Let's fly over Burns or Lynn or Patto or all 3.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It's a decent petty troll, though. "Ha, we're not even gonna let you take 10 wickets"
What is the point of this troll, surely just win by an innings and loads, that is a decent troll, it lessens the chance of a bigger win. It still makes no sense that I can remotely see.

Again I was out when this happened so didn't have a time to rant, so I just saw on my phone that the commentators were spunking about it, and the contributor couldn't believe England showed such "imagination", This decision doesn't need to be praised, we'd have won anyway.
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
What is the point of this troll, surely just win by an innings and loads, that is a decent troll, it lessens the chance of a bigger win. It still makes no sense that I can remotely see.

Again I was out when this happened so didn't have a time to rant, so I just saw on my phone that the commentators were spunking about it, and the contributor couldn't believe England showed such "imagination", This decision doesn't need to be praised, we'd have won anyway.
What's the point in giving johnson a chance to injure your opening bowlers? He's got nothing to lose and you're got little to gain.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
The way I saw the declaration was that Broad and Finn were meant to blast another quick 10--15, scored 1 in two overs so he called them in to give them an awkward ten minutes

I don't think it was particularly aggressive, just figured there was more to gain from bowling than wasting. Few overs before Finn (or Broad) got out an then the Aussies would have lunch to regroup
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
What's the point in giving johnson a chance to injure your opening bowlers? He's got nothing to lose and you're got little to gain.
Fair enough, I guess, yet that seems obscenely negative in view, so the opposite of what Cook was praised for.

Anyway let us make the point that we've crushed these crim gits into the ground by batting, fielding and bowling better than them, and a declaration made no difference whatsoever
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
**** headline of the day - cricinfo:

'Ponting: Eight of this side will not play again'

Watch it and he's talking about squad players who might not play again after the series, including Harris, Haddin and Watson
 

91Jmay

International Coach
What is the point of this troll, surely just win by an innings and loads, that is a decent troll, it lessens the chance of a bigger win. It still makes no sense that I can remotely see.

Again I was out when this happened so didn't have a time to rant, so I just saw on my phone that the commentators were spunking about it, and the contributor couldn't believe England showed such "imagination", This decision doesn't need to be praised, we'd have won anyway.
Finn looked absolutely pits and getting 10 more then losing the two overs at Aussies because of break is way less valuable imo
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Not much to post about when you're nothing more than an anti-England troll, is there?
**** post. Haven't you read his 47 AMAZING posts about how Australia need Dravid and Laxman so they can repeat something that happened fourteen years ago?
 

Niall

International Coach
We need him in the short term. Darsh is rubbish and over 30. Voges is rubbish. Bring in an opener for Rogers and Burns. That's 2 top order changes. I'd rather wait a few series before having to replace Clarke also.
Its easy to forget with this speculation, would Clarke even want to hang around after this loss? He is 34 with a horrid back and years ago even before it had disintegrated he said he had no intention of hanging around as long as the likes of Sachin etc.

He is a multi millionaire, who could probably make an absolute fortune once he retires. Surely some IPL side would be tempted to throw silly money at him after the success of Ponting with Mumbai this year? Probably a lucrative gig with Channel 9 on the table as well.

I get the feeling and others have said , all is not well behind the scenes between him and cricket Australia.

Also next tour is Bangladesh, its a unappealing series for him, anything less than a 2-0 win would be considered a disgrace by the masses who probably don't know that Bangla are pretty formidable at home.

With all that, and the brutal back and lack of form, I'd be astounded if plays after the Oval.
 

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
He said before this test he wasn't retiring. So I'm guessing he meant more than staying for 2 tests.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Just watching the highlights, and a lot of potential wickets off no balls. Does anyone know if the umpires failed to call any more no balls during the Australian innings? Just wondering if this is another example of bowlers not being able to correct overstepping because the umpires haven't been calling them off balls that didn't take wickets. Apologies if this has already been asked/covered.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Just watching the highlights, and a lot of potential wickets off no balls. Does anyone know if the umpires failed to call any more no balls during the Australian innings? Just wondering if this is another example of bowlers not being able to correct overstepping because the umpires haven't been calling them off balls that didn't take wickets. Apologies if this has already been asked/covered.
I still fully blame the bowlers, but the umpires almost certainly weren't watching front line. Mark Wood apparently bowled 8 uncalled no balls in his first few spells (which weren't that long). I don't mind it being a thing that 3rd umpire just checks and calls the no ball but it is shocking that the umpires have just decided that they aren't going to do a key part of their remit.
 

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