OverratedSanity
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Hey guys remember when Aus won in SA last year and everyone started calling them the best team in the world and laid into me for saying that was a stupid thing to say? Idiots.
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*Official* Fourth Test at Trent Bridge
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Black_Warrior
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Yeah but India doesn't have Yasir Shah
Black_Warrior
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What? Didn't he talk about how he saw fear in Warner's eyes and how Steve Smith is a lesser man for not being able to grind it out?
Black_Warrior
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yeah but they ended up scoring 185 which is still more than 3 times Australia managed.
I don't recall of any instance when a team scored 60 and still won the game
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Not in the radio interview I heard, sounded a bit stunned at it all but praised the catching of his team.
Came across as humble
Black_Warrior
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oh right, he plays for the other team..that makes sense. Now if the tables were turned.....
No mention of fear or lesser men in the interview I heard
He is joking, Warner made those comments about Ballance after Lords.
thanks, I thought I was missing something. Unlike the Oz batsmen.
hendrix
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I'm sure this has already been quoted a few times...but seriously how can he look at some of those shots and call that defense.Michael Clarke said:
Even when Clarke himself is way out of form, the difference between his defensive technique where he actually waits for the ball to come to him, and that of say Shaun Marsh is day and night.
Bahnz
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To be fair, I think for that brief moment in time Australia probably were the best team in the world. However that team has never really taken the field since. Harris is gone. Haddin, Clarke and Watson have gone into terminal decline. Johnson - while still being generally very good - has not looked the same since the final test of that summer. Pattinson has been perpetually injured. Siddle is a narcoleptic vegan *****.
It probably should've been accepted that given the make-up of their side, Australia's successes in 2013/14 weren't going to last into the long term.
Not succeeding long term and this are quite different propositions though, have to be honest.
Black_Warrior
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Here's the thing, Australia's batting did not become awful overnight. It was awful even during the 5-0 Ashes when Haddin and sometimes Johnson had to bail them out. The reason they won was because Johnson was blowing away England from the other end, so even if Australia made a below par total, it was still more than enough. Same in South Africa, Johnson blew them away and Harris chipped in.
There is no reason the same won't happen again in conditions that are suited to Johnson and co and where Australia can manage at least 230+ rather than 60.
That's the same reason Australia only won 2-0 against India at home instead of 4-0, because India managed to neutralise Johnson in a few games, if only they had a half a decent bowling attack, the results might have been very different.
So to sum it up, Australia is not a balanced side that England were in 2010-11, or South Africa have been for most part in the last few years. Having said that, if the ball is not doing much, and it comes on to the bat at a decent pace and bounce, and the top order does a decent job, Australia can be a pretty good side.
I guess the home series this year against NZ and West Indies will tell us that.
There is no reason the same won't happen again in conditions that are suited to Johnson and co and where Australia can manage at least 230+ rather than 60.
That's the same reason Australia only won 2-0 against India at home instead of 4-0, because India managed to neutralise Johnson in a few games, if only they had a half a decent bowling attack, the results might have been very different.
So to sum it up, Australia is not a balanced side that England were in 2010-11, or South Africa have been for most part in the last few years. Having said that, if the ball is not doing much, and it comes on to the bat at a decent pace and bounce, and the top order does a decent job, Australia can be a pretty good side.
I guess the home series this year against NZ and West Indies will tell us that.
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Even India had Australia in loads of trouble on flat pitches in two of the matches and Australia had to be rescued by a godlike Smith and India's braindead "bowl half trackers" plan to the tailenders.
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Fair enough on Brisbane....but were Australia really in trouble at Melbourne?
EDIT: Aah they were 5/216. Probably not loads of trouble but their position wasn't ideal.
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