*Official* 3rd Test at Edgbaston

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It would also help if any of your batsmen could play off the front foot.

Irrelevant really e.g. Rodgers barely gets forward and is making batting look easy

 

[Swingpanzee]

Decent scorecard to see. Not that it matters to me after losing my brother yesterday.

Nothing really matters compared to that.

hey man really sorry for your loss.

 

[FBU]

I hope that England are able to find a bowler that is capable of holding this attack together before Jimmy retires. One of the main reasons England have been such a force at home over the last decade is due to Jimmy's ability to swing the ball both ways like few others in the world. There will come a time in the not to distant future that a new leader will be necessary and I am not sure if Broad is consistent enough to take up that mantle and whether there are any others lurking in county cricket that are even capable of posing the kind of challenges that Jimmy does for visiting sides in English conditions. Certainly Finn developing into a test quality bowler would help prolong his career.

Apart from Johnson's wicket it was the wobble balls so batsman not knowing which way it was going, instead of being able to see which way it was going to swing.

Woakes will take over from Anderson when he goes. Swings it both ways.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Where to start with a performance as pathetic as that one?

Wtf was Clarke thinking with his decision to bat in conditions tailor-made for English bowlers?

Wtf was every Oz batsman bar Rogers doing when playing at balls a foot outside off stump?

That had to be the easiest 6-for that Jimmeh has ever got as he literally only got one guy (Warner) out - the rest committed suicide

And wtf was up with bowling Bell half volley after half volley?

If Oz lose the Ashes, this will be the day that is most to blame

To be fair to Anderson, he may have actually predicted that Marsh would want to feel bat on ball and put it outside off as a tempter. I can't remember the shape of the deliveries he bowled to Nevill before the one he left, but I assume they moved away a bit. It was poor judgement, but a good set-up if so. The areas he bowled might have also led to the indecision in the two leaves that ended up being edges.

Rogers did show everyone else how to bat. Pity they didn't seem to want to hang around and watch.

 

[Riggins]

Nev at least got a wobbler that didn't look like it would swing either way and then nipped back a bit. His was pretty defensible because if it had just held it's line he'd have been fine. It's obviously a bad leave in hindsight but early doors playing at lots of balls like that just leads to nicking off to the cordon.

 

[vic_orthdox]

That's what's so exciting though. You never know who could come in and thrive at Test level. Maybe Peter Handscomb, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis even Matthew Wade could come into the side and succeed.

Maybe even someone from another state.

 

[Spikey]

seems unlikely given victoria's recent stellar record of producing test class batsman

 

[Furball]

Marsh's was the worst for mine.

That ball was there to be smashed, just didn't come off.

 

[Uppercut]

Can forgive Nev to an extent because he simply didn't pick an inducker early doors.

Should have stepped forward and taken it on the pad though. Probably wouldn't have been given.

But it's mostly just great bowling. We've become a bit desensitised to Anderson I think. When the batsman is on 0 and the bowler clips the top of off with an inswinger following an over of outswingers, you just have to give him credit.

 

[Riggins]

That ball was there to be smashed, just didn't come off.

Nah no way. It was both not there to be hit and also, even if it was, you're on zero, you've faced two balls, and the team is in deep ****. Maybe put away the booming cover drive for a jiffy.

Here's the pitch map for Marsh's innings. I can't really remember but I'm pretty sure he left his first two balls and then tried to blast a cover drive.

 

[Tangles]

Iirc he smashed the ball before straight to point. He had a neon sign over his head reading I want to feel ball on bat. He was obliged next ball.

Credit to Anderson for Nev but I would still have liked him to cover his off stump. It didn't look like he fully did. I know it still out with DRS but you force a decision and maybe a referral.

Root looked in form and untroubled so a minor worry there but I think Bairstow needs some good bowling first up to see if we can't grab an early one.

 

[Howe_zat]

Weather looking good.

 

[Top_Cat]

I have no idea why anyone is surprised that Aussie bats struggle when the ball is swinging. It's pretty damning when you've got guys like Clarke and the rest panicking at anything moving vaguely off the straight but you have one guy at the other end humming along at almost 4/over barely being troubled. Aussies struggling in England is absolutely nothing new.

 

[Tangles]

The big worry is he, Rogers, is 5 innings from retirement. If Clarke goes soon the only 2 of the top 5 are established.

 

[Flem274*]

clarke is a mess atm and has a dubious back. i still think he'll fight through the summer, probably score a million runs in home conditions as usual then retire imo while he can still bend down to touch his toes.

 

[Furball]

Nah no way. It was both not there to be hit and also, even if it was, you're on zero, you've faced two balls, and the team is in deep ****. Maybe put away the booming cover drive for a jiffy.

Here's the pitch map for Marsh's innings. I can't really remember but I'm pretty sure he left his first two balls and then tried to blast a cover drive.

I agree on you about the cover drive, it's a ridiculously low percentage shot in the circumstances.

They'd the breaks though. The ball was definitely there to be hit, but that's why you want to bowl full as a bowler, for a nick just like Marsh's.

 

[Compton]

Judging by yesterday, not only do the Aussies not know when to leave the ball, but judging by the nicks behind, they don't even know how to leave it.

They better work it out soon, they'll need to bat 550+ third innings to save the match.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I have no idea why anyone is surprised that Aussie bats struggle when the ball is swinging. It's pretty damning when you've got guys like Clarke and the rest panicking at anything moving vaguely off the straight but you have one guy at the other end humming along at almost 4/over barely being troubled. Aussies struggling in England is absolutely nothing new.

Could be worse next week at Trent Bridge which is the ground where it swings most and Anderson has a fantastic record there.

 

[Howe_zat]

TB was a bit rubbish last year, hopefully they've sorted it out.

The 2011 match there was probably the best match I've seen in terms of a bat v ball contest

 

[Riggins]

I agree on you about the cover drive, it's a ridiculously low percentage shot in the circumstances.

They'd the breaks though. The ball was definitely there to be hit, but that's why you want to bowl full as a bowler, for a nick just like Marsh's.

I disagree. The full one was there for it, sure, but not the other two, of which one was a comfortable leave and one was the wicket ball.