Mohammed Amir cleared to return with immediate effect

[marc71178]

But why is the middle ground appropriate?

He knew what he was doing, yet still did it.

Not to mention that he then almost immediately breached his original ban by playing again.

 

[OverratedSanity]

i like how people conveniently forget Amir lied in a court of law. He already got his second chance. And blew it.

Now he needs a third? Great.

 

[smash84]

But why is the middle ground appropriate?

He knew what he was doing, yet still did it.

Not to mention that he then almost immediately breached his original ban by playing again.

And another thing I found so freaking outrageous was that his mom came on national tv saying that its a conspiracy against Pakistan cricket that his son is being dragged into this by international authorities. Was trying to tune into our national psyche of conspiracy theories. If anything looked like that woman was getting paid to throw tantrums

 

[mr_mister]

people do messed up things under times of stress. nothing new.

 

[smash84]

people do messed up things under times of stress. nothing new.

lawl,

Guilty parties also make messed up cold calculated moves, accept it.

 

[fredfertang]

people do messed up things under times of stress. nothing new.

indeed, every bloke who has ever got married - incredible that some us are so afflicted we then go and do it again, and again - hope Amir doesn't follow my example on that one

 

[mr_mister]

lawl,

Guilty parties also make messed up cold calculated moves, accept it.

lawl

im not attacking your knowledge of mental health here but amir was a young kid in a world of ****, people lie under times of stress. it being calculated and not completely impulsive does nothing to the fact he was probably in a horrible state of mind. my comment was aimed at the lying in court thing, i know nothing about his mum and don't see it as relevant to the argument of lifting his ban, unless he ordered her to do it

 

[Jono]

this thread was better when we were discussing chinos with hendrix

 

[hendrix]

There is only one good chino.

 

[marc71178]

lawl

im not attacking your knowledge of mental health here but amir was a young kid in a world of ****, people lie under times of stress. it being calculated and not completely impulsive does nothing to the fact he was probably in a horrible state of mind. my comment was aimed at the lying in court thing, i know nothing about his mum and don't see it as relevant to the argument of lifting his ban, unless he ordered her to do it

Horrible state of mind because he knew he was guilty as ****. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds for him.

 

[mr_mister]

horrible state of mind because his life was potentially ruined and his career potentially over. yes boo hoo! not once did i question his guilt. at no point did i defend his actions. From the moment he bowled the no ball til he got his sentence handed down, it was a phase of his life i'm sure he'd rather forget about, but he can't so he has to learn from it.

i believe in rehabilitation(seems I'm the only one) and that doesn't start til the sentence is passed down.

 

[hendrix]

But why is the middle ground appropriate?

He knew what he was doing, yet still did it.

Not to mention that he then almost immediately breached his original ban by playing again.

I've done bad things, and I knew they were wrong as I did them. He received a pretty serious punishment for a pretty serious crime.

 

[mr_mister]

yeah all anger aside, I doubt he'll waltz back into the team and even if he does i doubt he'll have the same flair and impact he once did. 24 is still youngish luckily so who knows

 

[marc71178]

If the PCB had morals they'd make damn sure he doesn't play again. Unfortunately I can't see that happening.

 

[Fusion]

If the PCB had morals they'd make damn sure he doesn't play again. Unfortunately I can't see that happening.

You mean if the PCB shared YOUR opinion of what's moral? Yeah, I'm glad they don't. Thankfully, they'll be giving him a second chance.

 

[Furball]

If the PCB had morals they'd make damn sure he doesn't play again. Unfortunately I can't see that happening.

You're talking about a board that's tried to entice the poorer boards in world cricket to tour their country when it patently isn't safe.

 

[Flem274*]

a life ban from cricket won't ruin his life ffs. where is this rubbish coming from?

he can have his third chance working a real job or another sport or anything else. no shame in that.

 

[Bahnz]

I've done bad things, and I knew they were wrong as I did them. He received a pretty serious punishment for a pretty serious crime.

Yeah, a 5 year ban is not a slap on the wrist. For most players it would be career ending.

I really just want him back so that I can watch Flem seethe when he runs through us during next year's test series.

 

[Flem274*]

a part of me wishes he was subjected to a pakistan v nz world cup semi at eden park.

the crowd would be punishment enough.

you don't see lou vincent, the bloke with depression and threats and manipulation from a former team mate, escaping a life ban. but amir is soooooooo talented and young and a widdle delicate vase.

 

[Bahnz]

Oh come on. Vincent's match fixing activities where far more serious than Amir's. He was involved in fixing arrangements in 5 seperate countries. The two really aren't comparable.