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*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Pfft, rain getting in the way of our victory charge. Series win will be tainted if we don't complete a whitewash.
 
Spikey

Spikey

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GIMH said:
Pfft, rain getting in the way of our victory charge. Series win will be tainted if we don't complete a whitewash.
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Then Brettig can write a book called whitewash to whitewash about the farce that is English cricket from 2013-14 and now
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
There has been far less rain than anticipated before the game started really. New Zealand should have declared earlier as they had to try and win the game to draw the series. Moreover, the chances of England shutting shop is much higher with the target far too high.
 
Moss

Moss

International Vice-Captain
Pratters said:
There has been far less rain than anticipated before the game started really. New Zealand should have declared earlier as they had to try and win the game to draw the series. Moreover, the chances of England shutting shop is much higher with the target far too high.
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It's a tough one, but I think BMac's got it just right with the declaration. He has theoretically 170-180 overs (feel free to correct me on the number here) in hand, and assuming maybe 1/3 are lost to rain that would still give him 100-120 overs which is still a reasonable amount of time (he set the Windies and Sri Lanka smaller targets with one day to go and managed to bowl them out each time). The new ball not fetching wickets doesn't help NZ's cause though.

Of course, England are far more capable of shutting shop if needed. 380-400 with more time would've been bold even by McCullum's standards given England scored quite quickly and heavily in both innings at Lord's.
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
See, the thing is that if there is an achievable target, teams often try to get them. A few wickets fall trying to do that.
 
OverratedSanity

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Pratters said:
See, the thing is that if there is an achievable target, teams often try to get them. A few wickets fall trying to do that.
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England leading 1-0 wouldn't try to chase anything over 250 actively.

What I mean is, their main aim is still going to be survival and runs will take a back seat. They may still chase it down, who the **** knows, but winning would not be their goal when they began their innings.
 
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Moss

Moss

International Vice-Captain
Pratters said:
See, the thing is that if there is an achievable target, teams often try to get them. A few wickets fall trying to do that.
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Agreed, that was the logic against West Indies and Sri Lanka. Setting England an "achievable" 380 in around 185 (?) overs however is a different story in my view. England (well the top 3-4 anyway) would be more than happy to bat time knowing 2 an over is all that's needed. If it rains, well then shut shop and preserve the 1-0 lead. If there wasn't so much time left in this test, a 380 declaration would've made more sense.
 
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