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It's Tough Being Me - The Kevin Pietersen Story
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nottsinexile
Cricket Spectator
Cabinet96
Jason Gallian was the captain that first rumbled Dominic Cork's "bad egg" ".Notts have not looked back since getting rid of the" stench" KP leaves around dressing rooms!
Jason Gallian was the captain that first rumbled Dominic Cork's "bad egg" ".Notts have not looked back since getting rid of the" stench" KP leaves around dressing rooms!
nottsinexile
Cricket Spectator
Good spot you rumbled me, especially the Garabaldi red and white!
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
he felt the need to throw KPs kit over the balcony didn't he?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Apart from that time they got relegated.
Yeah he really just went for people that are no longer around, at least not in the dressing room. It is really just Flower and Prior, they sure do get it though, the whole chapter on the big cheese is kind of amazing,
Shady Slim
International Coach
ok guys so it is a very special day today
i bought the autobiography of the man himself
i bought the autobiography of the man himself
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Best team that I ever played with was made up almost exclusively of ****s - hard to believe but I was one of the nice guys
On the one hand, I am happy with the 3 premierships we won
On the other, it definitely shortened "my career" as I didn't have to look to hard to find a few people that I would rather spend a lot of time with
Then again, I wasn't playing for my country and being paid a small fortune to do so
If KP still warrants selection, a few people need to swallow some concrete and harden the **** up
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I had some free time today and had googled this whole saga and I gotta say I totally take Joni's side on this one. Whatever happened at text gate and prior should have all been forgotten about once KP was asked to come back to help win a series in India and consolidate Cook as the captain. That said,a few pointers based on everything I read on this issue today:
- Very bad idea for Swann to write **** about KP in his book while they were still team mates and still had a few more years to go to retirement.
- While Andy Flower did publically condemn that the book was released, I guess KP expected more **** to be thrown at Swann for that transgression by Strauss and Flower, at least inside the team environment.
- Looks like there was a band of bullies in the English dressing room who enjoyed teasing the **** out of KP (coz he was a ****) a lot of the time - guessing it was Broad, Anderson, Swann.
- The guys following the KP parody account and apparently leaking stuff KP says or does inside the dressing room must have been the last straw for a guy with a big ego like KP.
- His frustrations at Strauss and Flower may have stemmed from his perspective that they were more strict with him than they were with the bullies club and may have led to the stupid stupid texts he sent out to the South African players.
- Very interesting that his texts were leaked while I am sure the less than complimentary texts about him that other team members might have floated around never made the light.
- The decision to sack him over the textgate scandal was totally justified and more time should have been given to all parties to bury the hatchet. Instead he was hurried back because Cook wanted to win in India badly.
- The team environment under Flower had become intolerable for someone like KP with all the planning and sucking the enjoyment out of playing the game. And when he spoke out, all the hidden animosities between them came out to the open again and Cook and Prior, both of whom KP might have trusted when he got back into the team in India, totally sold him out to the coach.
So given this is how this story seems to have played out (at least from the public accounts) I am totally of the opinion that once he was "reintegrated" there was nothing that KP really did apart from speak out against what he thought was bad coaching philosophy and he really does not deserve to be sacked for being a dick, coz there are many of the same in this current England set up. It is just that he is a dick the other dicks do not like. Heck, we are seeing interviews even today where Bell and Broad are saying they have no problems with him being in the side. What a joke!!!
Gotta say, the biggest role played here must be by the ECB (read Giles Clarke), who have had such a bad relationship with KP that the moment there was opportunity to knock him down and get him out of English cricket, they did it, THRICE!!!
- Very bad idea for Swann to write **** about KP in his book while they were still team mates and still had a few more years to go to retirement.
- While Andy Flower did publically condemn that the book was released, I guess KP expected more **** to be thrown at Swann for that transgression by Strauss and Flower, at least inside the team environment.
- Looks like there was a band of bullies in the English dressing room who enjoyed teasing the **** out of KP (coz he was a ****) a lot of the time - guessing it was Broad, Anderson, Swann.
- The guys following the KP parody account and apparently leaking stuff KP says or does inside the dressing room must have been the last straw for a guy with a big ego like KP.
- His frustrations at Strauss and Flower may have stemmed from his perspective that they were more strict with him than they were with the bullies club and may have led to the stupid stupid texts he sent out to the South African players.
- Very interesting that his texts were leaked while I am sure the less than complimentary texts about him that other team members might have floated around never made the light.
- The decision to sack him over the textgate scandal was totally justified and more time should have been given to all parties to bury the hatchet. Instead he was hurried back because Cook wanted to win in India badly.
- The team environment under Flower had become intolerable for someone like KP with all the planning and sucking the enjoyment out of playing the game. And when he spoke out, all the hidden animosities between them came out to the open again and Cook and Prior, both of whom KP might have trusted when he got back into the team in India, totally sold him out to the coach.
So given this is how this story seems to have played out (at least from the public accounts) I am totally of the opinion that once he was "reintegrated" there was nothing that KP really did apart from speak out against what he thought was bad coaching philosophy and he really does not deserve to be sacked for being a dick, coz there are many of the same in this current England set up. It is just that he is a dick the other dicks do not like. Heck, we are seeing interviews even today where Bell and Broad are saying they have no problems with him being in the side. What a joke!!!
Gotta say, the biggest role played here must be by the ECB (read Giles Clarke), who have had such a bad relationship with KP that the moment there was opportunity to knock him down and get him out of English cricket, they did it, THRICE!!!
harsh.ag
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Well, I did not read the autobiography but after the textgate scandal, Prior was one of the first guys who said he will have no problem picking up the phone and talking to KP and help to smoothen things out between him and Strauss.. So, I think their problems started from maybe just before the Ashes when he worked out that Cook and him were just Yes men for Andy Flower, whom I guess KP had been hoping would be gone sooner..
FBU
International Debutant
Alec Stewart: I was told Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann and Tim Bresnan had access to parody Kevin Pietersen Twitter account - Telegraph
Swann retired about 18 months later.
I have read that KP has another book coming out in the autumn.
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Friction with Pietersen made out to be worse than it is: Broad
Oh but I thought KP was a toxic influence and the whole squad hated him so much that the team would've fallen apart if he was selected.
Oh but I thought KP was a toxic influence and the whole squad hated him so much that the team would've fallen apart if he was selected.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
HehFriction with Pietersen made out to be worse than it is: Broad
Oh but I thought KP was a toxic influence and the whole squad hated him so much that the team would've fallen apart if he was selected.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Meh, unless you think they are outright lying, all Bell and Broad have implied is that KP isn't as toxic as he's being portrayed and he's not someone who should be banned forever, and these guys could live with him being in the dressing room. If they don't want to toe the Strauss line then fair play to them. They literally have nothing to gain by making these comments, so they obviously feel its something they want to say.
At some point they'll get the message that they really should just shut the **** up about the whole thing. Eventually.
Dunno bout Bell (not even sure he ever had beef with KP) but I'd be pretty confident Broad made those comments full well knowing Pietersen isn't ever coming back, so it's easier/better PR-wise to say there wasn't a big issue and try to pour cold water on the whole thing.
Which won't work unless they start winning & scoring runs. Least not in the short-term.
I don't think I could enjoy anything more than Boult and Southee with a new Duke, bowling at Lord's with the slopes helping, to a top-order with all sorts of white noise and pressure in their heads.
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Yup. They have a massive incentive to play down the KP thing knowing he's out of the picture with the series' they've got coming up. Anyway, for mine the issue isn't that KP was a knob, it's that England knew how to deal with him before but don't any more.
Incidentally, read this the other day:
Brad Hodge: 'I've been a bit of a T20 pioneer' | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo
Hodge is basically KP but actually dealt with in an Aussie way, in England he'd have played 50+ Tests. Was a dominant junior player and has a decent FC record but took him many years to jag a Test yet we only really publicly heard about how 'awkward' he is as a team-mate when he started mouthing off to the press.
Incidentally, read this the other day:
Brad Hodge: 'I've been a bit of a T20 pioneer' | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo
Hodge is basically KP but actually dealt with in an Aussie way, in England he'd have played 50+ Tests. Was a dominant junior player and has a decent FC record but took him many years to jag a Test yet we only really publicly heard about how 'awkward' he is as a team-mate when he started mouthing off to the press.
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