*Official* English Football Season 2014-15

[SkyBlue]

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest any club who would pay Sterling such an amount may have greater budgetary freedom

Ofcourse.With FFP rules and the PL inking one lucrative deal after another,that'd ensure teams especially the top ones land in a 'safe territory' at worst even if they're stupidly spending their money.

You go back 10-15 years ago,when there were no financial restraints with teams like Milan and Inter spending at will and did find some success as a result.Fast forward to today and they've been having to rely on free agents and cheap low cost deals.This is down to careless spending,having bloated wage bills and just management incompetence in general.Now obviously you wouldnt want your club to end up in this state.

Having said that i do like numbers and i like discussing it.Its probably a common trait in the modern fan i suppose.

Dont know why am i even justifying this tho

 

[GIMH]

Yeah I don't mean to be rude. You guys discuss what you want. I just don't get why people give a ****

 

[Cabinet96]

GIMH, do you not have any opinions on what Tranmere could do better at all? I get that wage structure is far from the most interesting discussion point for a lot of people, but it's all stuff that effects your club's chances of success so is it really that surprising fans care about it? It's no different to thinking that your side should change playing style, drop a couple of players, promote a couple of kids you think look promising etc. If the answer is no, then fair enough, each to their own, but doesn't it kind of make this thread redundant?

 

[GIMH]

GIMH, do you not have any opinions on what Tranmere could do better at all? I get that wage structure is far from the most interesting discussion point for a lot of people, but it's all stuff that effects your club's chances of success so is it really that surprising fans care about it? It's no different to thinking that your side should change playing style, drop a couple of players, promote a couple of kids you think look promising etc. If the answer is no, then fair enough, each to their own, but doesn't it kind of make this thread redundant?

I think that nobody outside of the clubs know as much as they think they do when it comes to contracts. And I don't care if George Donnelly earns more than Max Power, even though George Donnelly isn't fit for minimum wage

It's very much different to thinking playing style etc should change. I'm surprised you've tried to compare them.

 

[Cabinet96]

Maybe you're right about the first bit, and I guess you'll never know the specifics, but their are enough sources to get a general idea of what players are earning. And it's not really a case of worrying about whether a player earns more than another, it's about the fact if you hand out huge wages to the wrong player, it can cost you quite literally millions, which could prevent you from signing someone, or force you to sell players just to break even etc. I guess with Sterling the issue isn't that he's the wrong player though, it's more that it sets a dangerous precedent and might make more players think they deserve an extra £50k a week or whatever. I would assume Liverpool's wage bill is quite different to the likes of Chelsea, City and United, and that most players are earning around the £60k mark, so giving more than a couple of individual players more than twice that much is a dangerous game.

 

[grecian]

Hate to agree with Gimp, but there's no doubt that there is SOOOO much misinformation about what people are earning, when we'll never really know, it's a little pointless, and gets wearying.

 

[Cabinet96]

We're not all tactics experts either but that doesn't stop us

 

[Tom Halsey]

I agree with GIMH that I don't see why people care much about wages (in a stereotypical "soldiers should get footballers' wages" sort of sense) but I don't think the fact that we don't really know 100% what each player is on is a great reason. We don't actually technically know anything, from wages to what system would work best vs Team A or Team B, it's all opinion, so let's close down the thread and never discuss football ever again.

EDIT: Obviously if wage overspend/underspend is significantly affecting the fortunes of the club then there is every reason to care about wages.

I think Sterling is definitely worth 150k a week for what it's worth. The impression I get is that some Scousers want him sold for a perceived lack of loyalty rather than the actual footballing/economic merits. That said hating a player for a lack of loyalty is another thing I don't really get.

 

[Furball]

£150k a week for a top Premiership club who's also playing in the Champions League is peanuts really.

 

[GIMH]

#AMF

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[Cabinet96]

Mate we know Sterling is an Attacking Midfielder.

 

[Furball]

#AAMF

z

 

[GIMH]

If Liverpool let Sterling go so soon after letting Suarez go, they are bonkers.

 

[Nate]

...so it is odds-on then?

Not expecting much in terms of a result on Saturday, but really excited for the game, and not just because it's earlier!

 

[Furball]

If Liverpool let Sterling go so soon after letting Suarez go, they are bonkers.

They might back themselves into a corner on that one; Sterling knows this hence his desire to wait until summer. Loosely translated, he's waiting to see if Liverpool finish top 4 before he puts in his transfer request.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I agree with GIMH that I don't see why people care much about wages (in a stereotypical "soldiers should get footballers' wages" sort of sense) but I don't think the fact that we don't really know 100% what each player is on is a great reason. We don't actually technically know anything, from wages to what system would work best vs Team A or Team B, it's all opinion, so let's close down the thread and never discuss football ever again.

EDIT: Obviously if wage overspend/underspend is significantly affecting the fortunes of the club then there is every reason to care about wages.

I think Sterling is definitely worth 150k a week for what it's worth. The impression I get is that some Scousers want him sold for a perceived lack of loyalty rather than the actual footballing/economic merits. That said hating a player for a lack of loyalty is another thing I don't really get.

Really? Football's all about tribal loyalty, however artibrary the genesis of that loyalty is, so I totally understand it.

Aside from the completely boneheaded, no-one really expects a player to stand by their club forevermore, but the terms of the divorce are important. A West Ham supporting mate has never forgiven Paul Ince for being photographed in a Man U shirt whilst he was still an Irons player, for instance.

&, from a personal perspective, I had no objections to the likes of Petit, Overmars and Henry going to Barca because, like it or not, it is a step up from the Arse. I wouldn't even have minded Van Persie going to Man U that much if it hadn't have been for the "it was the small boy inside me that told me to sign for United" comment attributed to him.

Which, of course, inspired the "makes a change from the small girl underneath you tellling you to get off" joke.

 

[duffer]

Until ****ley Cole no football fan gave a toss about player wages. I blame him.

 

[sledger]

I'm not sure that's strictly true tbh, people were talking about the inflation of footballers' wages about a decade before all of that unsavoury business.

But anyway, yeah, Ashley Cole's conduct throughout that whole debacle was incredibly poor, and has cemented his place as one of my most despised sportsmen.

 

[Pothas]

This SO boring already.

 

[grecian]

Every International break we get a couple of stories the press bleed 'til the pips scream. One of the reason I hate it.