1st Semi Final - New Zealand v South Africa (24th March)

[ankitj]

I can't believe you're using this logic.

But they played that way because they knew they only had 5 overs left.

The only thing you could argue is that SA did not actually do the best. On second thoughts it is perhaps true than 13 runs an over in last 5 wasn't as good as 11 runs an over that SA would've needed in 12 overs to get to 350. But I stick to the general principle I stated. If your performance after resumption of the game corresponds to 80th percentile than the final adjusted score should correspond to 80th percentile percentile of what was likely if the game did not stop. May be that's how it actually works!

 

[OverratedSanity]

I've spent the last hour on social media arguing with my idiotic friends about why this wasn't a choke, and why SA's score getting adjusted up from 281 to 297 was fair.

Hair being torn out atm.

 

[anil1405]

I've spent the last hour on social media arguing with my idiotic friends about why this wasn't a choke, and why SA's score getting adjusted up from 281 to 297 was fair.

Hair being torn out atm.

Doing the same, ****heads continue to use the 'C' word by taking Proteas fielding into consideration.

 

[ankitj]

Well, Guptill did as well as he could if not 239. Hats off to him

LOL wut? Are you making the mistake I think you are?

 

[smash84]

LOL wut? Are you making the mistake I think you are?

oh ****, was just waking up and thought guptill had taken SA to victory lol

 

[ankitj]

oh ****, was just waking up and thought guptill had taken SA to victory lol

In before edit

 

[weldone]

The only thing you could argue is that SA did not actually do the best. On second thoughts it is perhaps true than 13 runs an over in last 5 wasn't as good as 11 runs an over that SA would've needed in 12 overs to get to 350. But I stick to the general principle I stated. If your performance after resumption of the game corresponds to 80th percentile than the final adjusted score should correspond to 80th percentile percentile of what was likely if the game did not stop. May be that's how it actually works!

1. Would you say the same thing if it was 5 balls in place of 5 overs?...Or, say, 1 ball?

2. Do you think doing your best for 5 overs is as tough as doing your best for 12 overs?

 

[Niall]

SA selectors did a SL today. These random changes to the XI completely baffle me. What happened to keeping a winning combination, especially retaining players WHO ARE DOING WELL?!?? So stupid.

Especially as they just hammered the side who suffered who made the same mistake. Reading online, peeps are saying Vern was in for political reasons and the colour of his skin. I dunno which would piss me off more if I was a Saffer, that or the selectors picking him because "he can bat a bit"

 

[Swingpanzee]

I've spent the last hour on social media arguing with my idiotic friends about why this wasn't a choke, and why SA's score getting adjusted up from 281 to 297 was fair.

Hair being torn out atm.

time for you to change friends buddy. your current ones are ********

 

[OverratedSanity]

Especially as they just hammered the side who suffered who made the same mistake. Reading online, peeps are saying Vern was in for political reasons and the colour of his skin.

That sounds completely baseless to me. No reason to believe that.

 

[OverratedSanity]

time for you to change friends buddy. your current ones are ********

It's India. I'd get pretty lonely if I get that picky.

God we've got some stupid fans here.

 

[Niall]

That sounds completely baseless to me. No reason to believe that.

Sorry OS

Should have clarified my post, it was just people speculating online, again no proper journalists or anything. I'd be very surprised if that was true really,just trying to make sense of it really.

 

[weldone]

I've spent the last hour on social media arguing with my idiotic friends about why this wasn't a choke, and why SA's score getting adjusted up from 281 to 297 was fair.

Hair being torn out atm.

Haha my British office colleague (he follows cricket closely btw) asked me why the score was adjusted if both teams played 43 overs.

 

[weldone]

It's India. I'd get pretty lonely if I get that picky.

God we've got some stupid fans here.

Stupid fans are everywhere. Don't judge by CW. Look at what Bangladeshi fans are doing over that one Rohit Sharma (non-)dismissal in a match they lost by 109 runs.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Remember Ab said at the toss that Philander was bowling really well at the nets or something along the line trying to justify his inclusion. Sounded a bit odd to me

 

[OverratedSanity]

Stupid fans are everywhere. Don't judge by CW. Look at what Bangladeshi fans are doing over that one Rohit Sharma (non-)dismissal in a match they lost by 109 runs.

Every country has stupid fans... we just have more of them because every person in the country (stupid and sane) is a fan.

 

[Niall]

Remember Ab said at the toss that Philander was bowling really well at the nets or something along the line trying to justify his inclusion. Sounded a bit odd to me

That is nearly as silly as any "race" drivel or for "batting depth". Its possible that could have been the reason of course, but if so wow.

That is the type of line that England always come out with when trying to justify doing crap and rightfully get ridiculed over it.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Remember Ab said at the toss that Philander was bowling really well at the nets or something along the line trying to justify his inclusion. Sounded a bit odd to me

That's really dumb if true. Abbott was robbed.

 

[nightprowler10]

Man what a match! I just got done watching the 2nd inning highlights. I knew the result yet I was still sweating. Incredibly tough to watch Morkel after the match.

Congrats NZ! Now please win the whole thing.

 

[ankitj]

1. Would you say the same thing if it was 5 balls in place of 5 overs?...Or, say, 1 ball?

2. Do you think doing your best for 5 overs is as tough as doing your best for 12 overs?

1. Didn't think about such a scenario. But I suppose you restrict the possibilities a bit to say between 40th and 60th percentiles of what was possible in case you only get one over. For 5 over, my be the possibilities are limited to 10th and 90th percentiles

2. You have to obviously calibrate what is 'best'. As I said above, 13 an over in 5 is not perhaps as good as 11 an over in 12 from 216/3 in 38. May be 15 an over is, which is other way of saying 15 an over in 5 is as 'tough' as 11 an over in 12.

I actually think this is how the system most likely works. It just comes down to how up to date your assumed distributions are.