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4th Quarter Final - New Zealand v West Indies (21st March)

Who will win this match?


  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .

Antihippy

International Debutant
It definitely does help but has the balance of the game been made unfair? I'm a massive fan of two new balls and the way the current ODI game is played. No longer is the game dictated by if the one ball you get chooses to reverse or not. No longer is the game dictated by if the mandatory ball change gets any swing or not.

There is a definable structure to how the game is played and I think the balance is there. We weren't seeing Guptill edging it for 6. We weren't seeing Guptill mis-hit into the deep to benefit from one less fielder. We saw some good clean hitting after a platform was set.

Do batsman dominate the last 20 overs? Clearly. At that point of the game it's all about restricting, but they have more to gain from the first 20 than they have in my experience watching the game. Maybe I just have a different definition of balance in mind, but I really enjoy the ODI game now.
My definition of balance is that bowlers factor in throughout the game. To me cricket is a game of the batsmen trying to overcome the bowling attack, not the other way round. I miss the time where spinners were actual spinners and not darters. Also reverse swing is too beautiful of an art to make it less of a factor.
 

Shady Slim

International Coach
I think that this hit out today by Guptill was more of his brilliance than anything else but all of the "anything else" is major and an issue for many knocks regardless.

1 really really really really good knock without edges for six doesn't mean big bats, small fields and restrictions aren't an issue. 1 really really really really scrappy knock with edges for six, poor technique and scoring just because of a lack of fielders stationed near boundaries doesn't mean that all big scores are from big bats and edges
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
Newzealand are chasing nearly 400 to win the quarterfinal and the key points they need to tick are :-

1. Gayle to score 50+ . . . 81 % chances of success
2. A 100 run partnership : some 67 or 77 % chances of success.

There go the super-idiots from Star-sports again.

Guess how many matches (%) Kiwis loses after scoring 390+ ? and
How many Windies win after chasing 390+ ?

Guess how many idiots it takes to make a cricket expert ?
Yeah you are a month late with the joke.
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
My definition of balance is that bowlers factor in throughout the game. To me cricket is a game of the batsmen trying to overcome the bowling attack, not the other way round. I miss the time where spinners were actual spinners and not darters. Also reverse swing is too beautiful of an art to make it less of a factor.
Lets be honest, when was the last time we saw regular reverse swing in ODIs even before the 2 new ball rule? Late 90s? ODIs take place in grounds with good quality grass and the balls stopped getting roughed up enough to reverse a long time ago. Reverse swing in ODIs had become the exception a while back before the rule change.
 
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hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Lets be honest, when was the last time we saw regular reverse swing in ODIs even before the 2 new ball rule? Late 90s? ODIs take place in grounds with good quality grass and the balls stopped getting roughed up enough to reverse a long time ago. Reverse swing in ODIs had become the exception a while back.
I've seen reverse swing with 2 new balls in almost all the games played in Australia. Every full yorker after the 35th seems to reverse a little bit.

It's never really reversed in NZ.
 

JediNudist

U19 Debutant
Newzealand are chasing nearly 400 to win the quarterfinal and the key points they need to tick are :-

1. Gayle to score 50+ . . . 81 % chances of success
2. A 100 run partnership : some 67 or 77 % chances of success.

There go the super-idiots from Star-sports again.

Guess how many matches (%) Kiwis loses after scoring 390+ ? and
How many Windies win after chasing 390+ ?

Guess how many idiots it takes to make a cricket expert ?
These stats are so naf from Star Sports. Whats the next stat ? How many games NZ win or lose if its overcast ?
 

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