Likely quarter final match ups

[viriya]

The problem for SL vs Aus is that Herath won't play that match.. ideally SL would go with Herath + Sena and use the slowness of the pitch to do the usual strangle.. also I think Sena in the death overs would be an effective option.. As it is however I don't see how Malinga/Lakmal/Thisara/Angelo are not gonna go for runs - SL will have trouble restricting Aus to <300..

For SL that means a likely quarterfinal vs SA, and they would have to hope for a choke but I doubt that will happen, especially since SA won an ODI series in SL recently and so they will be confident in more favorable conditions.

 

[Maximas]

We need early wickets basically, and we probably need to bat first and score 320 at least to put the required pressure on that might force a few rash shots and the like. Senanayake can bowl the tough overs and take 0/50 and Malinga can hopefully be decent and the squeeze with Matthews, Lakmal and Dilshan might work

 

[Zinzan]

If SL do manage to upset Aust on Sunday to set-up the Aus v SA quarter, it will be good for NZ, but India will be the real winner.

Huge chance for them to leapfrog straight to the final in the knowledge that the Aust/SA winner will face NZ at Eden Park.

 

[Maximas]

Who would play India in that semi?

 

[Zinzan]

Crazy to think this is where the teams were seeded when the WC draw was put together a couple of years back; Well, really only NZ & England I suppose..

Pool A
England (1)
Australia (4)
Sri Lanka (5)
Bangladesh (8)
New Zealand (9)
Afghanistan (12)
Scotland (13)

Pool B
South Africa (2)
India (3)
Pakistan (6)
West Indies (7)
Zimbabwe (10)
Ireland (11)
United Arab Emirates (14)

 

[Zinzan]

Who would play India in that semi?

Likely to be SL at the SCG, where SL have a good history IIRC, so no cake walk for India. Although I feel they'd prefer SL than Aust/NZ or SA... (even if they already beat SA).



Semi-final 1 - Winner QF1 (A1 v B4) v Winner QF3 (A3 v B2)
Semi-final 2 - Winner QF2 (A2 v B3) v Winner QF4 (A4 v B1)

The semi-final dates and venues are:

Tuesday 24 March - Eden Park, Auckland
Thursday 26 March - SCG, Sydney

 

[Days of Grace]

This is what I don't get: If New Zealand, as co-hosts, are guaranteed a home semi-final if they make it that far, then surely Australia are as well?

If Australia meets New Zealand again in the semi-final, why are we all assuming that the semi-final will be in Auckland and not in Sydney, since both co-hosts have the right to host a semi-final?

 

[Spark]

This is what I don't get: If New Zealand, as co-hosts, are guaranteed a home semi-final if they make it that far, then surely Australia are as well?

If Australia meets New Zealand again in the semi-final, why are we all assuming that the semi-final will be in Auckland and not in Sydney, since both co-hosts have the right to host a semi-final?

Because in that case it goes to whoever tops the group i.e. it'll be in Auckland.

 

[GIMH]

Gonna be pretty funny when we beat India innit

 

[Zinzan]

This is what I don't get: If New Zealand, as co-hosts, are guaranteed a home semi-final if they make it that far, then surely Australia are as well?

If Australia meets New Zealand again in the semi-final, why are we all assuming that the semi-final will be in Auckland and not in Sydney, since both co-hosts have the right to host a semi-final?

Here's all the fine-print;

The quarter-final match-ups will be determined by the finishing positions from the pool stage.

Quarter-final 1 - A1 v B4
Quarter-final 2 - A2 v B3
Quarter Final 3 - A3 v B2
Quarter Final 4 - A4 v B1

The quarter-final dates and venues are:

Wednesday 18 March -SCG, Sydney
Thursday 19 March - MCG, Melbourne
Friday 20 March - Adelaide Oval
Saturday 21 March - Wellington Stadium

The quarter-finals will be allocated using the following principles;

Hosts

o AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND play their QF matches in their home country.

Fairness

o All teams have sufficient time to travel to their QF venue and prepare for the match.

Certainty

o Fans and teams are provided with as much certainty as possible to work out where their QF is likely to be played.

It is proposed that the following criteria be followed in the allocation of QF matches to venues;

QF Criteria 1 - Allocation of Host teams to QF Venues

a) If AUSTRALIA qualifies to play in a QF, then it will be played at the Adelaide Oval on Friday 20 March, regardless of where AUSTRALIA finishes on the Pool A table.

b) If NEW ZEALAND qualifies to play in a QF, then it will be played at the Wellington Stadium on Saturday 21 March, regardless of where NEW ZEALAND finishes on the Pool A table.

QF Criteria 2 - Allocation of 2 "next highest ranked" Pool A teams to QF Venues

c) If SRI LANKA qualifies to play in a QF, then it will be played at the SCG on Wednesday 18 March, regardless of where SRI LANKA finishes on the Pool A table.

d) If ENGLAND qualifies to play in a QF, then it will be played at the MCG on Thursday 19 March, regardless of where ENGLAND finishes on the Pool A table.

QF Criteria 3 - Allocation of other Pool A teams to QF Venues

e) If one "host" or "next highest ranked" Pool A team fails to qualify for the QF Stage, then the venue that was allocated to the QF involving that team will instead host the QF involving the other Pool A team that qualifies.

f) If more than one "host" or "next highest ranked" Pool A team fails to qualify for the QF Stage, then the venues that were allocated to the QF matches involving those teams will instead host the QF matches involving the other Pool A teams that qualify. Of the other Pool A teams that qualify, the highest placed team will play in the first (earliest) unallocated match, the second highest placed team will play in the second unallocated match, and so on.

For example: "Host" team AUSTRALIA and "next highest ranked" team ENGLAND do not qualify for the Quarter Finals, replaced by BANGLADESH (in position A3) & AFGHANISTAN (in position A4). BANGLADESH (A3) (being the highest-placed) will play team B2 in the first (earliest) unallocated match on Thu 19 Mar at the MCG, while AFGHANISTAN (A4) (being the second highest-placed)will play team B1 in the second unallocated match on Fri 20 Mar at Adelaide Oval.

SEMI-FINAL PERMUTATIONS

The semi-final match-ups will be determined by the finishing positions from the pool stage.

Semi-final 1 - Winner QF1 (A1 v B4) v Winner QF3 (A3 v B2)
Semi-final 2 - Winner QF2 (A2 v B3) v Winner QF4 (A4 v B1)

The semi-final dates and venues are:

Tuesday 24 March - Eden Park, Auckland
Thursday 26 March - SCG, Sydney

There are two principles that will be used to allocate QF winners to SF venues;

Hosts

o AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND will play their SF matches in their home country, unless they are drawn to meet each other in a SF, in which case the match will be played in the country of the team that finished higher on the Table at the end of the Pool Stage.

Certainty

o Once it is known whether AUS & NZ can meet each other in a SF, QF winners will be allocated to a SF venue.

The allocation of Semi Finals to the dates / venues will be made using the following criteria;

SF Criteria 1 - AUS & NZ qualify for the QF Stage and can meet in a SF

a) If AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND can meet in a SF, the SF involving the winners of the QFs involving AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND will be played in the country of the team that finished higher in Pool A out of AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND; unless

b) The higher placed Pool A team out of AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND loses its QF, and the lower placed Pool A team out of AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND wins its QF, in which case the SF will be played in the country of the lower placed team from the Pool Stage.

c) The SF involving the winners of the QFs not involving AUS & NZ will be played at the other SF venue.

SF Criteria 2 - AUS & NZ qualify for the QF Stage and cannot meet in a SF

d) The SF involving the winner of the QF involving AUSTRALIA will be played in Sydney on Thursday 26 March.

e) The SF involving the winner of the QF involving NEW ZEALAND will be played in Auckland on Tuesday 24 March.

SF Criteria 3 - Only one of AUS or NZ qualify for the QF Stage

f) If AUS qualifies for the QF and NZ doesn't, the SF involving the winner of the QF involving AUS will be played in Sydney on Thursday 26 March.

g) If NZ qualifies for the QF and AUS doesn't, the SF involving the winner of the QF involving NZ will be played in Auckland on Tuesday 24 March.

SF Criteria 4 - Both AUS & NZ don't qualify for the QF Stage

h) The winner of the QF played in Wellington on Saturday 21 March will play in the SF in Sydney on Thursday 26 March. This means the two SF teams that know their match-up first will play in the first SF, and the teams that are last to know their SF match-up last will play in the second SF.

FINAL date and venue:

Sunday, 29 March - MCG, Melbourne

 

[jonbrooks]

If SL do manage to upset Aust on Sunday to set-up the Aus v SA quarter, it will be good for NZ, but India will be the real winner.

Huge chance for them to leapfrog straight to the final in the knowledge that the Aust/SA winner will face NZ at Eden Park.

I'm not so sure about that. If England finish fourth in Pool A they will play India in the quarters. England's recent form against India is very good.

 

[Zinzan]

I'm not so sure about that. If England finish fourth in Pool A they will play India in the quarters. England's recent form against India is very good.

Regardless..India would much rather the prospect of England & SL leading into the final than Aust, NZ or SA, even if they did beat SA.

 

[silentstriker]

I'm not so sure about that. If England finish fourth in Pool A they will play India in the quarters. England's recent form against India is very good.

True, but they'd much rather face England than Australia, New Zealand, South Africa or even Sri Lanka. They may not win, but it's still their best chance.

 

[viriya]

True, but they'd much rather face England than Australia, New Zealand, South Africa or even Sri Lanka. They may not win, but it's still their best chance.

I think India won't mind SL.. (5-0)

 

[Sarun]

I'm not so sure about that. If England finish fourth in Pool A they will play India in the quarters. England's recent form against India is very good.

So? India would be backed more than England to win that match.

 

[BigBrother]

To me the Aus-SL game is 50/50 and could vastly alter the tournament

Of the last 7 Australia - Sri Lanka ODIs at the SCG, SL have won 4, Aus 2 and one no result.
haveOf the last 3, it is 2-0 to SL with one no result.

It is the SCG, it is March and SL has perhaps the 2nd best top 6 (behind South Africa) and the best spin attack in the world - game on.

Anything can happen but I honestly doubt the Australian sides were anywhere near this good back in those days. With the current squad Australia has, I would consider it a semi upset if they actually lose to SL.

 

[Jimbo the giant]

Anything can happen but I honestly doubt the Australian sides were anywhere near this good back in those days. With the current squad Australia has, I would consider it a semi upset if they actually lose to SL.

Atleast one of those games must have been 99-07 so teams much stronger than this one.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Atleast one of those games must have been 99-07 so teams much stronger than this one.

stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/team/match_results.html?class=2;id=132;type=ground


2013 NR
2012 SL
2010 SL
2008 Aus
2006 Aus
2006 SL
2003 SL

 

[Spark]

Atleast one of those games must have been 99-07 so teams much stronger than this one.

A good portion of those games centred around Sanath going beserk, so I'd not read too much into that.

 

[hendrix]

Dilshan, Sanga and Mathews are good enough ODI batsmen to take apart any bowling attack, including this Aussie one. If they bat first they have a decent chance.