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20th Match - New Zealand v Australia
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Yeah, it's only the first one (barring a washout) since the last World Cup.
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Couple of recent articles...
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...southees-shoulder-injury-20150226-13pmh0.html
New Zealand team management have allayed fears about Tim Southee after he took a nasty blow to the right shoulder during Thursday's training session at Eden Park.
The Black Caps' pace spearhead, coming off a career-best haul of 7-33 against England, was struck by a stray throw from teammate Adam Milne at fielding practice on the main oval and fell over in pain clutching the back of his right shoulder.
It looked dramatic but there was a light-hearted reaction from his teammates who didn't appear overly worried.
Southee sat out the team's net session to apply ice to his shoulder, and a team spokesman said there were no fears about his involvement in Saturday's World Cup match against Australia.
Southee indicated he was confident of playing.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/content/story/839001.html
At 36, Daniel Vettori seems like he's done it all in New Zealand cricket. He is the country's most-capped Test and ODI player of all time, has captained in all three formats, has played in World Cup semi-finals. But this Saturday will bring a new experience for Vettori, when he will bowl on the reconfigured Eden Park for the first time.
Of course, Vettori has plenty of experience at the venue: his 23 wickets at 29.95 makes him the most successful one-day spinner at Eden Park, where seamers dominate the all-time statistics. But Vettori has not bowled there since March 2010; the playing area has been altered in that time, with the pitch rotated and the straight boundaries shorter than ever.
Under the current layout, the straight boundaries are officially measured at 55 metres from the centre of the pitch. That means the batsmen will face a 65-metre boundary past the bowler, with a 45-metre boundary past the wicketkeeper. The margin of error for all bowlers is therefore slim, and the importance of find the right length is paramount.
Vettori may well go into the match as the only frontline spinner from either side, with Xavier Doherty unlikely to be called in for Australia, who tend to use Glenn Maxwell as their main slow-bowling option. Asked what it was like marking out a run-up with the boundary closer than at almost any other international ground on the planet, Vettori was honest.
"It's not great," he said. "I haven't actually played on these dimensions, I've only played on the old configuration. It will be a new experience for me. I've been talking to Nathan [McCullum] a lot about what he's done here. He's done a pretty good job. Spinners at times have done a reasonable job. The boundaries are daunting but you can still perform.
"Sometimes getting away with the short ball is a little more difficult, because of how short the boundaries at fine leg and third man will be. I think it's 45 metres from where the batter is facing."
Then there is the matter of the ODI fielding restrictions, which allow no more than four men outside the circle at any point, compared to five when the previous World Cup was held in 2011. With tongue firmly planted in cheek, Vettori suggested that perhaps that new rule would have less impact at Eden Park than at many other grounds.
"The boundary is so small the fielders don't really play a part do they, it just goes over them," Vettori joked. "I think you just get used to it. Whatever happens, you get used to it, the layout of the ground."
The way the stands rise dramatically around the ground adds to the feeling of proximity, and the Australians certainly expect to be the target of some taunts from the Auckland crowd. But it is the possibility of on-field banter that has been the subject of much debate, with Australia's yappy approach sitting in stark contrast to the way the New Zealanders play the game.
The New Zealand coach Mike Hesson said this week that his players don't get caught up in sledging - "We're pretty respectful of our opposition and we're competitive but we pretty much focus on our own job," Hesson said. Rather remarkably, Vettori said that in his experience, the Australians were in the same boat.
"It's a little bit overstated," Vettori said. "I think in my 18 years of playing, I can't even remember being sledged by an Australian team. I think the way it's portrayed is not quite right ... I think it's more about the physical contest. I think that's the thing guys get up for and get excited about."
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...southees-shoulder-injury-20150226-13pmh0.html
New Zealand team management have allayed fears about Tim Southee after he took a nasty blow to the right shoulder during Thursday's training session at Eden Park.
The Black Caps' pace spearhead, coming off a career-best haul of 7-33 against England, was struck by a stray throw from teammate Adam Milne at fielding practice on the main oval and fell over in pain clutching the back of his right shoulder.
It looked dramatic but there was a light-hearted reaction from his teammates who didn't appear overly worried.
Southee sat out the team's net session to apply ice to his shoulder, and a team spokesman said there were no fears about his involvement in Saturday's World Cup match against Australia.
Southee indicated he was confident of playing.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/content/story/839001.html
At 36, Daniel Vettori seems like he's done it all in New Zealand cricket. He is the country's most-capped Test and ODI player of all time, has captained in all three formats, has played in World Cup semi-finals. But this Saturday will bring a new experience for Vettori, when he will bowl on the reconfigured Eden Park for the first time.
Of course, Vettori has plenty of experience at the venue: his 23 wickets at 29.95 makes him the most successful one-day spinner at Eden Park, where seamers dominate the all-time statistics. But Vettori has not bowled there since March 2010; the playing area has been altered in that time, with the pitch rotated and the straight boundaries shorter than ever.
Under the current layout, the straight boundaries are officially measured at 55 metres from the centre of the pitch. That means the batsmen will face a 65-metre boundary past the bowler, with a 45-metre boundary past the wicketkeeper. The margin of error for all bowlers is therefore slim, and the importance of find the right length is paramount.
Vettori may well go into the match as the only frontline spinner from either side, with Xavier Doherty unlikely to be called in for Australia, who tend to use Glenn Maxwell as their main slow-bowling option. Asked what it was like marking out a run-up with the boundary closer than at almost any other international ground on the planet, Vettori was honest.
"It's not great," he said. "I haven't actually played on these dimensions, I've only played on the old configuration. It will be a new experience for me. I've been talking to Nathan [McCullum] a lot about what he's done here. He's done a pretty good job. Spinners at times have done a reasonable job. The boundaries are daunting but you can still perform.
"Sometimes getting away with the short ball is a little more difficult, because of how short the boundaries at fine leg and third man will be. I think it's 45 metres from where the batter is facing."
Then there is the matter of the ODI fielding restrictions, which allow no more than four men outside the circle at any point, compared to five when the previous World Cup was held in 2011. With tongue firmly planted in cheek, Vettori suggested that perhaps that new rule would have less impact at Eden Park than at many other grounds.
"The boundary is so small the fielders don't really play a part do they, it just goes over them," Vettori joked. "I think you just get used to it. Whatever happens, you get used to it, the layout of the ground."
The way the stands rise dramatically around the ground adds to the feeling of proximity, and the Australians certainly expect to be the target of some taunts from the Auckland crowd. But it is the possibility of on-field banter that has been the subject of much debate, with Australia's yappy approach sitting in stark contrast to the way the New Zealanders play the game.
The New Zealand coach Mike Hesson said this week that his players don't get caught up in sledging - "We're pretty respectful of our opposition and we're competitive but we pretty much focus on our own job," Hesson said. Rather remarkably, Vettori said that in his experience, the Australians were in the same boat.
"It's a little bit overstated," Vettori said. "I think in my 18 years of playing, I can't even remember being sledged by an Australian team. I think the way it's portrayed is not quite right ... I think it's more about the physical contest. I think that's the thing guys get up for and get excited about."
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kiwiviktor81
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Totally agree - he couldn't be anymore laid back if he took a bong rip at the start of every over.
Greenlite
U19 Debutant
In the mid 2000s NZ media was saying how crap the NZ team was, and Dan was the only one that would make the AUS team.
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Quite right, I can only recall Vettori really losing his composure twice in the 18 years he's played internationals come to think of it;
1) His reaction when NZ got over the line in that infamous 2008 ODI in Eng when Paul Collingwood displayed poor sportsmanship in not calling Elliott back from a run-out after he'd collided with the bowler. I'll never forget Vettori's angry fist-pumping from the balcony when NZ got over the line off the last delivery.. It was so un-Vettori like
2) His reaction as he crossed paths with Andy Moles after being dismissed in the 2009 T20 vs. Pakistan after Umar Gul was getting the ball reversing after about 8 overs. Not sure if anyone remembers that, but you could hear Vettori uttering something like "That's BS, I want a **** official complaint laid about this ***" as he passed Moles on the way in..
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Nah this is one of the grounds where he could get that ball hooping at 150. Eden Park produces cricket of extremes because the swing, pace and bounce help you out if you bowl well but the short boundaries punish you if you make even a small mistake.
Top edges go for six so the short ball has to be perfect. He's better to chase the swing at pace with the odd short one.
Haha yup
Kyle Mills, Mitchell McClenaghan and Neil Wagner are no better either. McHesson talk the low key game but they're quite happy to let those three have words with the batsman.
Tim Southee too
kiwiviktor81
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Boo! Hiss!
Go the Black Caps!
Go the Black Caps!
Jimbo the giant
U19 12th Man
Jimbo the giant
U19 12th Man
After the two cracker associate games and a massive build up to this game, It just feels like we are going to get let down. Having this game be awesome as well may be too much to ask for!
I just hope we get let down by NZ winning by too big of a margin
I just hope we get let down by NZ winning by too big of a margin
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wellAlbidarned
International Coach
This would make a great rule for T20. Imagine the fourth overs.
Spark
Global Moderator
I've literally never heard anyone ever talk Hazlewood up as a 150kmh bowler. A very good bowler, yes (because he is)
Blain
U19 Captain
"We've got Mitchell [Starc] and Josh [Hazlewood] who have been swinging the ball consistently and they're 10kph faster. So our blokes are well prepared for that sort of stuff, and our blokes move their feet pretty well."
Quote from McDermott in relation to Southee and Boult in an article which annoyed me. I bet you Boult will bowl quicker than Josh tomorrow.
They keep going on about having 4 bowlers who can bowl 150 clicks. Maybe it's just the media. I rate Pattinson more than Hazle.
Quote from McDermott in relation to Southee and Boult in an article which annoyed me. I bet you Boult will bowl quicker than Josh tomorrow.
They keep going on about having 4 bowlers who can bowl 150 clicks. Maybe it's just the media. I rate Pattinson more than Hazle.