4th Match - India v Pakistan

[cnerd123]

Gg Virat.

Both of these to ton up now.

 

[Contra]

I forgot Kohli loves Adelaide

 

[viriya]

Errr, check Bailey's record in the last 12 months. No one was ****ting on him when he was scoring hundreds for fun in 2013

Yea for Australia it makes more sense to think of dropping him cos there's Clarke, but for someone who's proven himself over an extended period of time his place shouldn't really be in question.

 

[OverratedSanity]

If these two stay in till over 35, this could be an awesome score.

 

[viriya]

Oooh sloppy from Irfan.

Rahane >>> Dhawan IDGAF what the stats say.

You're doing your standard thing where you look at a team as if for the first time and make judgments purely based on players records without taking any further consideration of pretty basic things like player development, current form, conditions, team composition, available replacements etc etc.

I think both of you are still dreaming about that greentop ton vs Eng. That was a Test this is ODI cricket. Doesn't matter if Rahane is technically better or whatever. He just hasn't performed in ODIs that well.. even in 2014-15 it's 33 @ 79.

Not saying he should be dropped, but if Rohit had a similar stretch people would be crying out for him to get dropped I'm sure.

 

[Daemon]

I think both of you are still dreaming about that greentop ton vs Eng. That was a Test this is ODI cricket. Doesn't matter if Rahane is technically better or whatever. He just hasn't performed in ODIs that well.. even in 2014-15 it's 33 @ 79.

Not saying he should be dropped, but if Rohit had a similar stretch people would be crying out for him to get dropped I'm sure.

The difference is that Rahane almost always gets himself out. Moeen and him have the same annoying problem but you can tell that if they figure things out they'll be a lot more productive. Definitely worth persisting with him long term.

 

[cnerd123]

Doesn't matter if Rahane is technically better or whatever.

Yes it does. Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Rahane has also scored runs when the team needs them - ie conditions where everyone else struggles.

Rahane >>>> Dhawan.

 

[Teja.]

I think both of you are still dreaming about that greentop ton vs Eng. That was a Test this is ODI cricket. Doesn't matter if Rahane is technically better or whatever. He just hasn't performed in ODIs that well.. even in 2014-15 it's 33 @ 79.

Not saying he should be dropped, but if Rohit had a similar stretch people would be crying out for him to get dropped I'm sure.

Have you watched Rahane play overall in the last two months or the warm ups in the last ten days?

He's the chosen one ffs.

You just don't drop him.

 

[hendrix]

I think both of you are still dreaming about that greentop ton vs Eng. That was a Test this is ODI cricket. Doesn't matter if Rahane is technically better or whatever. He just hasn't performed in ODIs that well.. even in 2014-15 it's 33 @ 79.

a) 33 @79 is better than most Indian batsmen have managed in Oceania
b) Can you think of anyone else likely to perform in Aus and NZ? Just because you say that India = plethora of good batsmen doesn't make it true.

 

[viriya]

Rahane has also scored runs when the team needs them - ie conditions where everyone else struggles.
Rahane >>>> Dhawan.

ODIs != Tests

 

[viriya]

a) 33 @79 is better than most Indian batsmen have managed in Oceania
b) Can you think of anyone else likely to perform in Aus and NZ? Just because you say that India = plethora of good batsmen doesn't make it true.

You misunderstand - I'm not saying he should be dropped. I'm saying he's coasting on his Test brilliance. Dhawan or Rohit would not have that leeway. Shouldn't equate Test performances with definite ODI adaptation.

 

[cnerd123]

India should look for 280 from here, if not 300.

 

[Contra]

LOL Afridi

 

[OverratedSanity]

I think both of you are still dreaming about that greentop ton vs Eng. That was a Test this is ODI cricket. Doesn't matter if Rahane is technically better or whatever. He just hasn't performed in ODIs that well.. even in 2014-15 it's 33 @ 79.

Not saying he should be dropped, but if Rohit had a similar stretch people would be crying out for him to get dropped I'm sure.

He's flawed but it's plain as day Rahane will be an awesome ODI batsman once he gets certain aspects of his game sorted out (ie) he sometimes attacks when he shouldn't... which shouldn't take long. You don't drop a guy like that.

 

[OverratedSanity]

You misunderstand - I'm not saying he should be dropped. I'm saying he's coasting on his Test brilliance. Dhawan or Rohit would not have that leeway. Shouldn't equate Test performances with definite ODI adaptation.

Rohit and Dhawan are far more established ODI batsmen. Rahane only recently became a proper regular in the ODI side.

 

[cnerd123]

ODIs != Tests

You misunderstand - I'm not saying he should be dropped. I'm saying he's coasting on his Test brilliance. Dhawan or Rohit would not have that leeway. Shouldn't equate Test performances with definite ODI adaptation.

He's not 'coasting' on past performances. He looks the real deal. Thats why they keep picking him. Selectors using their eyes and not statsguru.

And even if he was 'coasting', it would be on his ODI performances in England and IPL. Not Test form.

So ridiculous to suggest dropping Rahane or saying that Dhawan is better.

 

[viriya]

Another thing to note is that he hasn't even done that well in List A ODIs.. You could make a case that he's similar to Pujara who excels in Tests but hasn't done as well in ODIs, but Pujara actually has an amazing domestic ODI record which Rahane doesn't. Why wasn't Pujara given more than 5 matches to prove himself?

 

[Daemon]

You misunderstand - I'm not saying he should be dropped. I'm saying he's coasting on his Test brilliance. Dhawan or Rohit would not have that leeway. Shouldn't equate Test performances with definite ODI adaptation.

He's not coasting on his Test brilliance, he's coasting on being a ****ing talented batsman, which the selectors are clearly using their eyes and some of his performances to see.

 

[hendrix]

You misunderstand - I'm not saying he should be dropped. I'm saying he's coasting on his Test brilliance. Dhawan or Rohit would not have that leeway. Shouldn't equate Test performances with definite ODI adaptation.

But he hasn't had any leeway. He's been in and out of the team like a virgin ****ing a pornstar.

 

[cnerd123]

Why wasn't Pujara given more than 5 matches to prove himself?

IDK, I like Pujara.
I think he has been pidgeonholed, and with Rahane Rohit and Kohli all being top-order ODI bats there is no space for him in the batting order anyways.