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***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

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Antihippy

International Debutant
Blocky said:
Jesus - when a team is 3/238 against the new ball bowlers, they're not exactly finding it hard. The pitch isn't that difficult to bat on unless you've got a leg spinner or you're a left armer vs the off spinner. The reason teams haven't won with big chases in the past is that in the past, scoring at 3.5+ an over was consider impossible. Look at the run rates throughout this series to see how much that has changed. There will be a LOT more 4th innings chases in the next 10-15 years that are successful. I guarantee it. You've already seen some and some go close ( i.e Kohli smashing 70 against NZ in the 4th innings this time last year. )
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India's runrate was 2.9 when the pitch was much, much flatter. At one point it was almost dropping below 2 before kohli started counterattacking.

Also could have shaved off a few runs if we held onto our chances.

Going at a higher run-rate on the 5th day means that they have to risk it more.
 
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Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Antihippy said:
India's runrate was 2.9 when the pitch was much, much flatter. At one point it was almost dropping below 2 before kohli started counterattacking.

Also could have shaved off a few runs if we held onto our chances.
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meaning 150+ runs
 
Blocky

Blocky

Banned
Spark said:
2/300 ---> 330ao is more likely than India chasing them down tbh.

Particularly since India haven't found free scoring easy in this match at all.
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They almost got to a 3 RPO by the end of their innings due to how much Kohli and Rahul accelerated after getting through the tougher stages. I thought Ryan Harris gave them nothing but they found the rest of the bowlers relatively easy. In the end, both Rahul and Kohli got themselves out with really poor shot options rather than great bowling. You even saw with Bhuvi coming out and getting 30 odd that the pitch wasn't exactly hard and the bowlers weren't asking that many questions. I don't think run-rate will be the issue, it'll be how long they can conserve wickets while going at say 2.5 to 3.5 per over and whether they give stupid dismissals away like they did in this game.
 
Spark

Spark

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Blocky said:
They almost got to a 3 RPO by the end of their innings due to how much Kohli and Rahul accelerated after getting through the tougher stages. I thought Ryan Harris gave them nothing but they found the rest of the bowlers relatively easy. In the end, both Rahul and Kohli got themselves out with really poor shot options rather than great bowling. You even saw with Bhuvi coming out and getting 30 odd that the pitch wasn't exactly hard and the bowlers weren't asking that many questions. I don't think run-rate will be the issue, it'll be how long they can conserve wickets while going at say 2.5 to 3.5 per over and whether they give stupid dismissals away like they did in this game.
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hazlewood went at 2 an over, and stayed at 2 an over.

and yes, batsmen got themselves out with poor shots. that's what pressure does. i thought we were pretty average today, but yesterday we were as good as you could reasonably expect, and IF WE COULD ****ING CATCH OH MY GOD then the score would have reflected that.
 
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Blocky

Blocky

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Spark said:
hazlewood went at 2 an over, and stayed at 2 an over.

and yes, batsmen got themselves out with poor shots. that's what pressure does.
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Remind me again how Rahul and Kohli were under pressure having batted for over 200 runs together and both having centuries? Look at Kohli post his century, scored runs at ease despite the dropped catches.... and based on the fielding effort from Australia, it's not a given that they'll hold chances in the fourth innings either.
 
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Antihippy

International Debutant
Blocky said:
Remind me again how Rahul and Kohli were under pressure having batted for over 200 runs together and both having centuries? Look at Kohli post his century, scored runs at ease despite the dropped catches.... and based on the fielding effort from Australia, it's not a given that they'll hold chances in the fourth innings either.
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Remember how rahul should have been run-out and caught before he reached 50?

***** said:
So you're saying there's a chance?
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There's always a chance for anything. :P
 
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Blocky said:
Remind me again how Rahul and Kohli were under pressure having batted for over 200 runs together and both having centuries? Look at Kohli post his century, scored runs at ease despite the dropped catches.... and based on the fielding effort from Australia, it's not a given that they'll hold chances in the fourth innings either.
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Coz they found scoring pretty tough early on because of how tight Australia's pacers were?
 
Spark

Spark

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Blocky said:
Remind me again how Rahul and Kohli were under pressure having batted for over 200 runs together?
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pressure = completely drying up the runs, giving the batsman nothing and enticing the mistake, as we did extremely well in the first two sessions and should have resulted in both batsmen falling for 60-odd. it's how you get wickets on these decks.
 
Blocky

Blocky

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Antihippy said:
I can at least guarantee that there's a 99% chance that we won't have a bowler go for 45 runs in 3 overs.
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I can guarantee that too, Yadav is utter tosh.

It's not an "Indian bowlers vs Australian bowlers" because at the moment I'd probably put money on Afghanistan's bowlers over India... but considering the average runs per wicket in this series for the Australian bowlers and how many 400+ innings have been racked up, it's not beyond the realm of possibility and I think you see that in the fact that Smith didn't declare at say 300 lead - which by the way you're talking feels like it would've been enough.

Anyway, I guess we'll see tomorrow.
 
Spark

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i mean, if we continue to field as badly as we have, then sure, india will chase it down in a canter. but i'm hoping - perhaps foolishly - that we've improved.
 
Spark

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Blocky said:
I can guarantee that too, Yadav is utter tosh.

It's not an "Indian bowlers vs Australian bowlers" because at the moment I'd probably put money on Afghanistan's bowlers over India... but considering the average runs per wicket in this series for the Australian bowlers and how many 400+ innings have been racked up, it's not beyond the realm of possibility and I think you see that in the fact that Smith didn't declare at say 300 lead - which by the way you're talking feels like it would've been enough.

Anyway, I guess we'll see tomorrow.
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he probably didn't declare at 300 lead because by that stage there were only six or seven overs left anyway. we scored a looooot of runs in the last few overs.
 
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