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Are tons really that impressive in this era?

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Jono

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Everyone realises that Dravid's previous record of most runs by an Indian vs. Australia in 2003/04 came on extremely flat pitches too right? Right?
 
Blocky

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Dan said:
...which is not the post we're discussing.
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Like I said earlier, I think you guys are arguing with the Ghost of WW in this thread and I don't actually think he made the posts you're accusing him of making which is why I quoted them. The thread is much too long winded now but on many occasions I've said I disagreed with WW's opinions, but could see why he had them.
 
Blocky

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Jono said:
Everyone realises that Dravid's previous record of most runs by an Indian vs. Australia in 2003/04 came on extremely flat pitches too right? Right?
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Difference being Lee, Gillespie, MacGill and Bichel all being a **** show better than the bowling attack we're seeing here.
 
cnerd123

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Jono said:
Everyone realises that Dravid's previous record of most runs by an Indian vs. Australia in 2003/04 came on extremely flat pitches too right? Right?
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Honestly I don't remember the last series in Aus which didn't have flat pitches/high scores.

They are always quick and bouncy, have fast outfields, and offer value for strokes. It's only on days 4 and 5 where wickets start to fall as the pitches break up. The Kookaburra ball barely swings too.

I have always associated Tests in Australia with lots of runs, fast paced cricket, and wickets for fast bowlers and Warne. Pitches which seam or swing or are uneven from Day 1 are rare.
 
Blocky

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RossTaylorsBox said:
Today I learned that batsmen can never ever improve their game.
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So, we should expect Smith and Kohli to now perform like Bradman in every subsequent series?

Today I learned that performance against **** teams in batting friendly conditions trump all precedence of previous performance against better teams.
 
Blocky

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morgieb said:
No. Not in that series anyway.
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No, but then they were playing Dravid - with a career average of 54 in a career lasting over a decade, who scored runs against every team in every condition and Tendulkar, who most (not I) see as the greatest since Bradman, as well as that Laxman fellow who seemed to score runs for fun against Australia, Sehwag, who was basically David Warner for a decade and that other guy Ganguly who could play a wee bit.
 
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Blocky said:
No, but then they were playing Dravid - with a career average of 54 in a career lasting over a decade, who scored runs against every team in every condition and Tendulkar, who most (not I) see as the greatest since Bradman, as well as that Laxman fellow who seemed to score runs for fun against Australia, Sehwag, who was basically David Warner for a decade and that other guy Ganguly who could play a wee bit.
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The circle is complete.
 
Blocky

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OverratedSanity said:
Lee, Gillespie, bichell, Macgill is a better attack than the current one Australia have? Really?
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I'd say yes. World class spinner, world class pacer (Gillespie) and two very good pacers in Bichel and Lee. vs Lyon - average, Johnson - world class but not here today, Harris - world class but didn't play all matches and Hazelwood, Siddle, Starc, et all.
 
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RossTaylorsBox said:
Today I learned that batsmen can never ever improve their game.
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Ross makes a post directed towards WW's point about Kohli not having improved.

Blocky said:
So, we should expect Smith and Kohli to now perform like Bradman in every subsequent series?

Today I learned that performance against **** teams in batting friendly conditions trump all precedence of previous performance against better teams.
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Block jumps in to defend WW's point.

Literally minutes after accusing us of debating with 'the ghost of WW' and claiming he disagrees with WW's points.

Honestly this whole thread just reads as Block defending WW, then backing off and disassociating with WW when he realises he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Can you give us your opinions and views straight up Blocky? What arguments of WW do you agree with and what arguments do you disagree with? What is your opinion on the OP subject?
 
Flem274*

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Blocky said:
No, but then they were playing Dravid - with a career average of 54 in a career lasting over a decade, who scored runs against every team in every condition and Tendulkar, who most (not I) see as the greatest since Bradman, as well as that Laxman fellow who seemed to score runs for fun against Australia, Sehwag, who was basically David Warner for a decade and that other guy Ganguly who could play a wee bit.
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So? Are you penalising Kohli for not having a decade of cricket behind him?
 
Blocky

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***** said:
Ross makes a post directed towards WW's point about Kohli not having improved.


Block jumps in to defend WW's point.

Literally minutes after accusing us of debating with 'the ghost of WW' and claiming he disagrees with WW's points.

Honestly this whole thread just reads as Block defending WW, then backing off and disassociating with WW when he realises he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Can you give us your opinions and views straight up Blocky? What arguments of WW do you agree with and what arguments do you disagree with? What is your opinion on the OP subject?
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It's pretty apparent I think Smith is **** and will go back to being **** post this match. (**** is unfair, he's an above average batsman probably capable of a 40-45 average)
It's also pretty apparent I rate Kohli and expect he'll average 45-50 over the course of his career, but not achieve what Dravid did.

I took RossTaylorsBox to be responding to me about my critique of Smith, not WW's critique of Kohli - which hasn't been done in over 12 hours because he hasn't been in the thread.

Keep up.
 
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