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***Official**** Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2014/2015

Flem274*

123/5
The great travesty for me is I see we play a mingy 2-test series in England next year along with 5 ODIs. If only logic prevailed & they decided to cut the ODI series to 3 to allow a 3rd test.
tbh our batting last time only deserved two tests.

England, South Africa and Australia are the final frontiers for our batting. They've proven they can hold a bat at home and in Asia and the UAE, and we've proven we can bowl everywhere except SA where Boult and Dougeh got spanked right before the start of our golden run but the batting still has a lot to prove. Taylor, Baz and Brownlie have a couple of good knocks in Australia through the years and Spud Kane and the rest had no clue in 2011. Taylor and Baz have had success in England but again, Kane didn't come to the party. None of them except Watling and Brownlie have ever done anything in South Africa (and Baz will never get another chance. Taylor hopefully will and only has his debut series there).
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Clarke is probably done.
Harris is 35, Johnson is 33.

There is every chance next time we play Australia they don't have these three blokes.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Watling is miles better than Haddin, it's not even close at this point.

As for Johnson - I agree that the likes of Williamson and perhaps Latham would struggle against him but Taylor and McCullum would be fine.

RE: the spinner - in Aus we won't play one.
 

Flem274*

123/5
:laugh:

In a composite team Baz would open. Taylor is at worst the 3rd batsman on the sheet behind Clarke and Warner. Rogers is better than Latham by a big gap (do hundreds against SA count for nothing these days?) and Spud Kane scored a ton against South Africa going for a win. Big Daddy Kane will probably always be better against spin than pace but he can play.
 

Flem274*

123/5
I want Australia to have the three big guns when we play them next. If we get dicked then we get dicked, but honestly a series with Clarke, Harris, Johnson etc in it will always be better to watch and more exciting than Southee running rings around Marsh and Twatto with Smith praying for someone to stay at the crease with him so he can put up a total Starc can't ruin. Yuck.

Watching Harris dismantle our batting wouldn't even make me sad because like Steyn he makes it beautiful.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Speaking of which, Kane has been cleared to bowl. Wouldn't mind seeing him get an over or two in Wellington.
He bowled here and his action looked a lot cleaner. Whether it is as effective is still to be seen.

I'm in the ballot for tickets for the Lord's Test. Fingers crossed.
 

Blocky

Banned
:laugh:

In a composite team Baz would open. Taylor is at worst the 3rd batsman on the sheet behind Clarke and Warner. Rogers is better than Latham by a big gap (do hundreds against SA count for nothing these days?) and Spud Kane scored a ton against South Africa going for a win. Big Daddy Kane will probably always be better against spin than pace but he can play.
The point isn't really a composite team, Baz won't open if we play Australia in Australia - therefore if you look at the likely "better performers" - sorry, but Clarke and Smith are both better than Taylor. Warner too.
 

Blocky

Banned
Watling is miles better than Haddin, it's not even close at this point.

As for Johnson - I agree that the likes of Williamson and perhaps Latham would struggle against him but Taylor and McCullum would be fine.

RE: the spinner - in Aus we won't play one.
And someone else says I'm full of dribble.

A: Yes we will play a spinner in Australia, we're playing one in NZ and Australia is much more friendly due to detoriation to spin bowlers.
B: No, Watling isn't miles better than Haddin - Haddin has had a crap year but is only one year removed from being a massive threat to England with a similar attack to ours. Haddin will likely score more for Australia than Watling will for NZ should the two sides meet in current form.
C: Taylor hasn't shown a liking to throat high deliveries either and McCullum while adept against pace, only really enjoys attacking it.

Australia are the better batting side, not by much, but they are. They're also the much better bowling side in Australian conditions and arguably the much better bowling side in any condition based on them having A: Lyon. and B: Johnson

Tell me again how frequently NZ has come up against a bowler like Johnson and been on the winning side of it? Our history is littered with us falling apart against true pace bowlers - we even made Mohammad Sami look good.

We'd have a chance in NZ solely due to how good Boult and Southee are in swinging conditions but in Australia on current form, they'd soundly thrash us.
 

Flem274*

123/5
second coming of southee update 89 @ 23.08 from 20 matches (since and including the India recall for the 31 august 2012 test)
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
And someone else says I'm full of dribble.

A: Yes we will play a spinner in Australia, we're playing one in NZ and Australia is much more friendly due to detoriation to spin bowlers.
B: No, Watling isn't miles better than Haddin - Haddin has had a crap year but is only one year removed from being a massive threat to England with a similar attack to ours. Haddin will likely score more for Australia than Watling will for NZ should the two sides meet in current form.
C: Taylor hasn't shown a liking to throat high deliveries either and McCullum while adept against pace, only really enjoys attacking it.

Australia are the better batting side, not by much, but they are. They're also the much better bowling side in Australian conditions and arguably the much better bowling side in any condition based on them having A: Lyon. and B: Johnson

Tell me again how frequently NZ has come up against a bowler like Johnson and been on the winning side of it? Our history is littered with us falling apart against true pace bowlers - we even made Mohammad Sami look good.

We'd have a chance in NZ solely due to how good Boult and Southee are in swinging conditions but in Australia on current form, they'd soundly thrash us.
Agree with pretty much all of this, though the recent UAE series sorta shows that Southee and Boult can sometimes give us an attacking edge in those sorts of conditions which Australia lacks.
 

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