***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

[weldone]

I personally don't see any crisis at India's no. 6 position. Rohit Sharma is fine and should've been given the full series in Australia. If he failed, we could have legit decent middle-order batsmen like Manoj Tiwary and Badrinath (no Raina please). Making a debutant 22-year old opening batsman bat at no. 6 is not the brightest of ideas.

 

[Johnners]

I did.



Both teams are sledging because that's what the Aussies have dragged down everyone else to, because of their disregard for others' culture. And there is a reason why Rohit, Ishant & Co. are so piss poor at the art of sledging. It's just not something that is a part of the routine here.

Ha, what a load of claptrap.

 

[the big bambino]

The Aussies have this sports culture of "Do and say what you need to in the park, even if you actually respect the guy you are sledging". Now, that's perfectly alright. But the truth is that is not the culture everywhere, and we have a culture where sledging in the park is a sign of disrespect. Now, you may not agree with it,..

First up (and not directed at you harsh but generally) whats the beef with Johnson's ping? You walk out of your crease and the only fielder who can't have a ping is the bowler? - please Kohli. In relation to comments at the presser, its hard to make a defence for Kohli on cultural grounds when he sledges. That's the problem for India's players and fans. Once you adopt the culture of sledging then you accept its limits too and that includes keeping it on the field. Taking it to the presser is an escalation. His comments were qualitatively different to Smith's which were limited to how his side reacted to the chirping: He didn't make comments about respect or teaching lessons.

Not that I think any of it will change anything. Johnson and Kohli will continue to bait each other. Its just that Kohli looks a dick for sledging at a press conference. As for the day's play Kohli and Rahane were magnificent and Johnson unfortunate. I'm not sure how the pitch is breaking up. I'm worried about our 2nd innings but we might be lucky to get the best of the remaining batting conditions. Surely our frail top order is due for runs just this once? Can't always expect the tail to make good for us. Setting 300 for a final day on an uneven pitch might be the goal.

 

[harsh.ag]

I personally don't see any crisis at India's no. 6 position. Rohit Sharma is fine and should've been given the full series in Australia. If he failed, we could have legit decent middle-order batsmen like Manoj Tiwary and Badrinath (no Raina please). Making a debutant 22-year old opening batsman bat at no. 6 is not the brightest of ideas.

I think it's okay. Would have preferred Rohit, but giving chances to youngsters also keeps people in the Ranji on their toes. It has come under the scanner a lot nowadays, but in the older days, random people used to be given debuts, and I think it can be a nice thing.

 

[Gnske]

I feel this is partly why India/Aus series tend to get so heated. Not a major factor, but Indians generally do not grow up sledging while playing cricket. So when they face it at international level they do tend to take offence more than an English or NZ cricketer would. Hence the stronger reactions.

These guys aren't greenhorns on their first test tour though, adapting is a thing you have to do. And the suggestion they don't enjoy sledging is a crap generalization.

 

[OverratedSanity]

First up (and not directed at you harsh but generally) whats the beef with Johnson's ping? You walk out of your crease and the only fielder who can't have a ping is the bowler? - please Kohli.

I doubt Johnson's throw had anything to do with the fact that Kohli was out of his ground. It's a **** thing which most bowlers do when the ball is pushed back at them.

 

[harsh.ag]

First up (and not directed at you harsh but generally) whats the beef with Johnson's ping? You walk out of your crease and the only fielder who can't have a ping is the bowler? - please Kohli. In relation to comments at the presser, its hard to make a defence for Kohli on cultural grounds when he sledges. That's the problem for India's players and fans. Once you adopt the culture of sledging then you accept its limits too and that includes keeping it on the field. Taking it to the presser is an escalation. His comments were qualitatively different to Smith's which were limited to how his side reacted to the chirping: He didn't make comments about respect or teaching lessons. .

Agreed.

 

[weldone]

These guys aren't greenhorns on their first test tour though, adapting is a thing you have to do. And the suggestion they don't enjoy sledging is a crap generalization.

Ya I personally think Kohli enjoys sledging, and Dhawan too...not sure about others

 

[the big bambino]

I don't think that cricket generally has such a problem with Aussie sledging as India's holier than thou and hypocritical reaction to it.

 

[Antihippy]

Hmm, anyone else also think that it might be time for MJ to take a spell? I think he's the only bowler who has not missed any tests since the ashes. Played the entire ashes, South africa, UAE, plus some ODIs in between? Not been as sharp recently.

 

[Burgey]

I did.



Both teams are sledging because that's what the Aussies have dragged down everyone else to, because of their disregard for others' culture. And there is a reason why Rohit, Ishant & Co. are so piss poor at the art of sledging. It's just not something that is a part of the routine here.

Oh spare us this tosh.

 

[Spark]

Hmm, anyone else also think that it might be time for MJ to take a spell? I think he's the only bowler who has not missed any tests since the ashes. Played the entire ashes, South africa, UAE, plus some ODIs in between? Not been as sharp recently.

He's bowled with no luck but yeah he's clearly not in top nick. People say his pace isn't down... eh. He certainly isn't hitting 150 as regularly as last summer, and there's not the same sharpness either.

 

[Gnske]

Ya I personally think Kohli enjoys sledging, and Dhawan too...not sure about others

Kohli, Dhawan, Ishant, Rohit, Jadeja all enjoy a good verbal.

They need to take a leaf out of Rahane's book, Steyn wouldn't shut up sledging him during that SA series when he wasn't chatting to Rohit and he just didn't bite at all. Add probable chatter in England and this tour certainly and he hasn't made so much as a squeak in all that time. Good role model.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I think it's a bit rich for us to be saying sledging isn't part of the routine here when it's clear to see that Rohit, Dhawan, Ishant, Rohit, Kohli run their mouths pretty often. Pretending this rubbish from them is only being brought out by the Aussies is nonsense. They've shown that they're dicks on the field before as well. The problem isn't that they're bad at sledging (have no idea what that even means), the problem is that, apart from Kohli, they can't back it up with performances on the field.

 

[harsh.ag]

These guys aren't greenhorns on their first test tour though, adapting is a thing you have to do. And the suggestion they don't enjoy sledging is a crap generalization.

Yeah, not true for each and everyone, of course.

I don't think that cricket generally has such a problem with Aussie sledging as India's holier than thou and hypocritical reaction to it.

Debatable. Sledging as a natural part of cricket may not be the best idea either.

Oh spare us this tosh.

Take a hike.

 

[Johnners]

He's bowled with no luck but yeah he's clearly not in top nick. People say his pace isn't down... eh. He certainly isn't hitting 150 as regularly as last summer, and there's not the same sharpness either.

Yeah he's bowled well enough without luck this series, and was a 1 man attack in the UAE. Cant imagine that finger is helping much tho

 

[harsh.ag]

I think it's a bit rich for us to be saying sledging isn't part of the routine here when it's clear to see that Rohit, Dhawan, Ishant, Rohit, Kohli run their mouths pretty often. Pretending this rubbish from them is only being brought out by the Aussies is nonsense. They've shown that they're dicks on the field before as well. The problem isn't that they're bad at sledging (have no idea what that even means), the problem is that, apart from Kohli, they can't back it up with performances on the field.

Being a dick and sledging are different things though. And if they had been enjoying sledging since a long time, they would really be better at it

 

[hendrix]

Watching that Kohli presser was painful. Sounds like an ex gf the way he says "I'm not bothered..."

It's absolutely fine to take the Aussies on and there's nothing wrong with talking crap in a press conference but you have to understand it makes you look like a baby, even after you've dominated the bowlers on the field.

 

[Gnske]

Yeah, not true for each and everyone, of course.

True for the ones getting involved, Kohli, Dhawan, Rohit, Ishant even Aaron albeit he was baited unnecessarily by Warner.

 

[Antihippy]

I mean, what do you define as better?

I wouldn't really call the australian sledging Top A material either really.