***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

[Arjun]

Enough of Ishant Sharma! He's the only seam bowler who got all three Tests, but still gets a wicket every 90 deliveries! He doesn't bowl fast, he doesn't swing the ball, his line and length is loose, he hasn't played much in Ranji or even had a decent IPL season- what's keeping him in the XI? Two great spells in one Test series?

 

[viriya]

You do know he isn't in the side for this game, right?

Damn I thought he'd get a decent run this time.. looks like it's another Kambli-like career in the making.

 

[Swingpanzee]

Tbf Ishant was probably the pick of the bowlers in the first innings of Adelaide. + the other bowlers were even more ****. Of course, Yadav should have been played in the 1st Test as well. Easily the best seamer out of the lot.

 

[dognutz]

Enough of Ishant Sharma! He's the only seam bowler who got all three Tests, but still gets a wicket every 90 deliveries! He doesn't bowl fast, he doesn't swing the ball, his line and length is loose, he hasn't played much in Ranji or even had a decent IPL season- what's keeping him in the XI? Two great spells in one Test series?

What's keeping him in is there's bugger all else. You can't pull your socks up when you're wearing thongs

 

[OverratedSanity]

This hardly had anything to do with us having one bowler less. The plan to the tailenders and the lower order is stupid. That's it. They kept bowling short and kept getting smashed and didn't learn. It happened in the previous match for crying out loud, you'd think they'd have learnt their lesson, but no. Adding a fifth bowler is not the solution. Bowling with your brain is.

For an attack which is this inexperienced, Dhoni and Fletcher deserve a mountain of hate. It's their job to come up with a plan because none of the bowlers apart from Ishant has played more than a year of cricket overseas and will be looking to them for a plan of action in certain siuations. Both here and the previous game, that plan has failed big time. If one, or both of them isn't gone in the next few months, it'll be a travesty.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Damn I thought he'd get a decent run this time.. looks like it's another Kambli-like career in the making.

Well, I wouldn't have dropped him personally, but more than the lack of runs, it's the manner of dismissals which pissed everyone off. He hasn't got a full series yet overseas, but who can blame the selectors when he plays daft shots every innings? Hell, sledging Johnson in itself, was a droppable offence.

 

[Flem274*]

ryan harris wag

 

[Arjun]

What's keeping him in is there's bugger all else. You can't pull your socks up when you're wearing thongs

Not quite. Much as Aaron is raw, there's some scope for improvement, unlike with Ishant. There's Pankaj Singh, with seven domestic seasons of experience, and Ishwar Pandey, who has done well abroad for India A. Surely worth a try. But just because there's 'bugger all else' is no excuse to condone mediocrity, which is what India's Test team does by fielding Ishant time and again.

 

[Arjun]

This hardly had anything to do with us having one bowler less. The plan to the tailenders and the lower order is stupid. That's it. They kept bowling short and kept getting smashed and didn't learn. It happened in the previous match for crying out loud, you'd think they'd have learnt their lesson, but no. Adding a fifth bowler is not the solution. Bowling with your brain is.

For an attack which is this inexperienced, Dhoni and Fletcher deserve a mountain of hate. It's their job to come up with a plan because none of the bowlers apart from Ishant has played more than a year of cricket overseas and will be looking to them for a plan of action in certain siuations. Both here and the previous game, that plan has failed big time. If one, or both of them isn't gone in the next few months, it'll be a travesty.

These Aussie tailenders are not mediocre with the bat, which is something the Indian bowlers don't realise, but even then, after each bloke bowls 30 overs across the innings, it would be hard, especially given the lack of Test cricket experience these blokes had. Ishant, though, is a waste of space. And yes, sooner the Indian team is rid of both Dhoni and Fletcher, the better.

 

[Antihippy]

Enough of Ishant Sharma! He's the only seam bowler who got all three Tests, but still gets a wicket every 90 deliveries! He doesn't bowl fast, he doesn't swing the ball, his line and length is loose, he hasn't played much in Ranji or even had a decent IPL season- what's keeping him in the XI? Two great spells in one Test series?

If ishant isn't in the team australia's run-rate for the whole series would probably be 6.00.

 

[Johnners]

In his interview after today's play with the ABC, Ashwin was asked about the plans they had for Smith, and I'm sure he said that it was something they only worried about at the end of the days play. Isn't that something of a problem? Like shouldn't you be looking at that sort of thing during the day, as oppossed to just kinda saying **** it we'll just bowl, see what happens and then think of something new tomorrow if that doesn't work.

 

[OverratedSanity]

These Aussie tailenders are not mediocre with the bat, which is something the Indian bowlers don't realise, but even then, after each bloke bowls 30 overs across the innings, it would be hard, especially given the lack of Test cricket experience these blokes had. Ishant, though, is a waste of space. And yes, sooner the Indian team is rid of both Dhoni and Fletcher, the better.

Guess what? If they'd pitched the ball up to a good length and bowled like they had yesterday after lunch, they wouldn't have had to bowl 30 overs.

Basically, you're saying they bowled rubbish and were spanked for runs because they were tired. In actuality, they bowled rubbish, which led to them having to bowl that many overs and got tired by the end of the innings because they needed 100 overs to get the damn tailenders out. They would've been fresh as daisies this morning ffs, and look how they bowled. A 5th bowler wouldn't have helped. At all.

 

[Daemon]

In his interview after today's play with the ABC, Ashwin was asked about the plans they had for Smith, and I'm sure he said that it was something they only worried about at the end of the days play. Isn't that something of a problem? Like shouldn't you be looking at that sort of thing during the day, as oppossed to just kinda saying **** it we'll just bowl, see what happens and then think of something new tomorrow if that doesn't work.

They shouldn't have a plan because the bowlers can't execute ****. There should only be one standard plan for an attack so inept, the one which Burgey has been teaching kids for the last 150 years.

 

[cnerd123]

As an advocate for the five bowler theory and an ardent Ishant hater, I have to agree that the issue doesnt seem to be picking only 4 bowlers and Ishant leading the attack. The issues it how they bowl and the strategies India are employing, as well as the absolute lack of mental strength this side has.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Enough of Ishant Sharma! He's the only seam bowler who got all three Tests, but still gets a wicket every 90 deliveries! He doesn't bowl fast, he doesn't swing the ball, his line and length is loose, he hasn't played much in Ranji or even had a decent IPL season- what's keeping him in the XI? Two great spells in one Test series?

Yeah you clearly haven't been watching the series.

If Ishant had Bhuvi with him, our attack of Ishant-Yadav-Bhuvi would genuinely be all right.

The huge problem is the third seamer slot. Both Aaron and Shami have been so ridiculously expensive that they're releasing all the pressure built up at the other end. Ishant, apart from that awful 1st innings spell in the last game really has done ok. He's the least of our worries in the bowling lineup. Shami though, can gagfed.

 

[Spark]

They shouldn't have a plan because the bowlers can't execute ****. There should only be one standard plan for an attack so inept, the one which Burgey has been teaching kids for the last 150 years.

Haha yep. All this **** about plans, just tell the ****ers to hit the top of off each and every ball with the occasional bouncer, which the bloke in his second Test was doing just fine at the end of the day.

 

[Daemon]

India firm on short-ball plan for Haddin | Cricket News | Australia v India | ESPN Cricinfo

The level of stubbornness and refusal to accept mistakes is honestly appalling. Their attitude really stinks. You can't hope to improve as a player with everyone around you giving excuses all the ****ing time.

 

[OverratedSanity]

What I don't understand is when did the short ball plan become "Let's bowl short every single ****ing delivery". How is that a plan? That's something a 5 year old would come up with.

 

[OverratedSanity]

India firm on short-ball plan for Haddin | Cricket News | Australia v India | ESPN Cricinfo

The level of stubbornness and refusal to accept mistakes is honestly appalling. Their attitude really stinks. You can't hope to improve as a player with everyone around you giving excuses all the ****ing time.

"I am not the one to basically look and comment at this game. But if you ask me, I will say only one thing: we'll make 650 and try and put them back in."

 

[Antihippy]

You'd think that they'd try to trap them on the backfoot more often with a good length delivery.