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*Official* English Football Season 2014-15

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Shearer's exclusion really sticks out, even as someone who hates him, he should definitely always be in this type of team. If I'm honest I think Petr Cech pre-scrumcap was probably better than Schmeichel, but I'm probably in a minority.
 

cpr

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Agree with Sledger; Pires at his best was better than Giggs. In fact, I'm tempted to say much better than Giggs. I don't think Giggs was ever legitimately the best player in the league at any point in his career whereas Pires actually was. Giggs gets over the hump for his longevity.

Personally don't see how Bergkamp should be ahead of Shearer who was far more prolific. The rest can't really complain but I'd probably go for Ferdinand over Adams.
Disagree, early 90's Giggs was phenominal. He was the Premier Leagues first world class player, alas it doesn't get remembered too much because its so long ago (both in time and in his career), and because the Premiership was still a much weaker league than Italy and Spain. He was the prototype for Bale now IMO, though replace most of the powerful 30 yarders with 3 defenders on their arse and a neat finish from a tight angle.

He would've walked into the Barcelona or Milan teams of that day.


As most say, Shearer simply should be in there. I can understand the appeal of the Bergkamp/Henry combo, as it worked wonders, but on individual talent Shearer is the best goalscorer I've seen (Henry not far behind though).

I do kind of agree with Keane missing out. Vieira on fire was the best midfielder I've witnessed, he just did it all. I'd put Scholes over Gerrard - but thats a debate that will never end :)


If anyones looking for a replacement for Neville, you are criminally underrating him IMO.
 

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Guardian had him 5th. Above Aguero and Suarez. I think it's a relatively new phenomenon, post world cup, which has probably happened to most German players bar ones who play for Arsenal, but I think he's probably benefited the most. I don't think he really stands out amongst his Bayern and German peers and I've legit been laughed at for thinking Reus is better.
Yeah, I guess they accounted for Muller winning loads of stuff. It's not even close to being the worst decision in the list though. Pogba over Modric, my god.
 

Cabinet96

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Pogba though.

Edit: It's because one mug had Pogba first in his list. Guess it's their equivalent of the Jardine thing.
 
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Pothas

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Well safe to say Ipswich knew what they were doing today. But **** it, we did not want to go top yet anyway....
 

cpr

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Shame Everton don't, the one team on my 10 team accy that aren't winning. I will be a sore **** if those scouse ****s do me out of £250
 

Tangles

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Disagree, early 90's Giggs was phenominal. He was the Premier Leagues first world class player, alas it doesn't get remembered too much because its so long ago (both in time and in his career), and because the Premiership was still a much weaker league than Italy and Spain. He was the prototype for Bale now IMO, though replace most of the powerful 30 yarders with 3 defenders on their arse and a neat finish from a tight angle.

He would've walked into the Barcelona or Milan teams of that day.
This. Forget about the career longevity. In his young days he was just special. He had electric pace and just blew by quality defenders like they didn't exist. The dribbling and body swerve at pace was something beautiful to behold. I saw some of the same qualities with Ronaldo but Giggs did it a decade earlier.
 

Cabinet96

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How ****ing awful are QPR though. Easy to see why they have an awful away record. Never going to get anything out of it if you don't try.
 

Ikki

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Disagree, early 90's Giggs was phenominal. He was the Premier Leagues first world class player, alas it doesn't get remembered too much because its so long ago (both in time and in his career), and because the Premiership was still a much weaker league than Italy and Spain. He was the prototype for Bale now IMO, though replace most of the powerful 30 yarders with 3 defenders on their arse and a neat finish from a tight angle.
I remember Giggs' career, especially the early days, really well and while he was pretty great for a winger; wingers in those days didn't have the same tactical importance in the team as they've evolved to these days (especially because of inverted wingers). He wasn't ever United's best player (let alone the first world class player in the league) and I'm not even sure there was a prolonged period where he was even their second best player. Seriously; you go through the years and you can name better/more important players for United in each year.

And the Bale comparison always makes me cringe. Bale is far better than Giggs ever was and plays both wings effectively as well as behind the forward. He also played left back. They're left-footed, fast and Welsh and that's about it for the comparisons.

He would've walked into the Barcelona or Milan teams of that day.
I guess it depends which team you mean but Capello's Milan or Cryuff's Barca? Not a chance. You have to remember by the time Giggs' started to make his mark England's team were really inferior in comparison to the European giants because of the ban, and those particular teams were star-studded. As for the Pires comparison; IMO the only thing Giggs had over him was speed. Pires was more prolific, a better passer, better technically, a more intelligent playmaker in general and just as versatile.

As most say, Shearer simply should be in there. I can understand the appeal of the Bergkamp/Henry combo, as it worked wonders, but on individual talent Shearer is the best goalscorer I've seen (Henry not far behind though).

I do kind of agree with Keane missing out. Vieira on fire was the best midfielder I've witnessed, he just did it all. I'd put Scholes over Gerrard - but thats a debate that will never end :)

If anyones looking for a replacement for Neville, you are criminally underrating him IMO.
Not that Shearer is my favourite player; but he was really prolific. If he had gone to Man Utd instead of Newcastle United he probably would have won more; scored as much if not more; and would probably be looked upon even more favourably.

Disagree on Neville; really consistent, a good cog in a great team; but I also think he is getting in on this team because of his longevity and title-winning rather than being a stand-out player. Having said that not sure who I'd have ahead of him; which I guess says how few truly great full-backs have had a good/long career in England.
 
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Cabinet96

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This is the kind of game where Podolski will come on, score and then everyone will say Arsenal are made to sell for £10m+ and that he should start up top.
 

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