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**Official** Pakistan v New Zealand in the UAE 2014

Kippax

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As the hot fling with the new agribusiness hunks starts to run out of steam, NZ fans begin to get nostalgic for old Jimmy, from Wellington. The Jimmy you could trust.

 
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Hurricane

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Yeah that post and the ones about Elliot make me believe we will make the semis again and be knocked out, Both Grant and James F have had a Bagillion chances. Interestingly both of them are too good for domestic cricket but not good enough for International cricket.
 
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A significant national tragedy in Pakistan - will the players be able to put that out of their heads and play a game of cricket later today? It's a big ask. I would understand if they were reluctant to play.
 
Zinzan

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smalishah84 said:
They should take the game off IMO
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I'm not so sure tbh, unless of course the players families were directly affected. I accept this was an absolutely horrendous event, but imho very different to the both the 'Hughes' situation, which obviously had a very deep & direct connection to cricket & the 2004/05 Asian/Pacific Tsunami which saw SL abandoning their tour of NZ, but of course that involved players families along with over 200,000 casualties.

Without taking anything away from this tragedy in which approx 130 innocent lives were taken, would it have also warranted 'taking the game off' for the following two similar instances in Pakistan the last 12-24 months?

22 September 2013: Militants linked to the Taliban kill at least 80 people at a church in Peshawar, in one of the worst attacks on Christians

10 January 2013: Militant bombers target the Hazara Shia Muslim minority in the city of Quetta, killing 120 at a snooker hall and on a street.
 
smash84

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Zinzan said:
I'm not so sure tbh, unless of course the players families were directly affected. I accept this was an absolutely horrendous event, but imho very different to the both the 'Hughes' situation, which obviously had a very deep & direct connection to cricket & the 2004/05 Asian/Pacific Tsunami which saw SL abandoning their tour of NZ, but of course that involved players families along with over 200,000 casualties.

Without taking anything away from this tragedy in which approx 130 innocent lives were taken, would it have also warranted 'taking the game off' for the following two similar instances in Pakistan the last 12-24 months?

22 September 2013: Militants linked to the Taliban kill at least 80 people at a church in Peshawar, in one of the worst attacks on Christians

10 January 2013: Militant bombers target the Hazara Shia Muslim minority in the city of Quetta, killing 120 at a snooker hall and on a street.
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Some of the Pakistan players do have strong family ties in Peshawar. Most of Pakistan is in shock not because of the number of lives lost but because specifically children were targeted. Perhaps you don't find it as disturbing but your comment "without taking anything away from this tragedy" seems to be taking a lot away from this tragedy. Sounds quite insensitive.
 
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Although I don't think it can really be a postponement, with NZ's tight turnaround before the Sri Lanka series at home. The game would have to be dropped altogether.
 
Zinzan

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smalishah84 said:
Some of the Pakistan players do have strong family ties in Peshawar. Most of Pakistan is in shock not because of the number of lives lost but because specifically children were targeted. Perhaps you don't find it as disturbing but your comment "without taking anything away from this tragedy" seems to be taking a lot away from this tragedy. Sounds quite insensitive.
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Sorry you feel that way. Where I come from preceding a point with "without taking anything away from..." actually aids in providing sensitivity, otherwise I wouldn't have said it. If there's players families involved, then by all means they should be back on a plane to Pakistan to aid their families & should not be thinking about cricket.
 
smash84

smash84

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Zinzan said:
Sorry you feel that way. Where I come from preceding a point with "without taking anything away from..." actually aids in providing sensitivity, otherwise I wouldn't have said it. If there's players families involved, then by all means they should be back on a plane to Pakistan to aid their families & should not thinking about cricket.
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And what does your statement imply, that if they didn't take the game off for that tragedy then they do not have any right to request a game off for this?

You don't sound very sorry. Your comments are extremely insensitive and upsetting.
 
smash84

smash84

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Zinzan said:
Without taking anything away from this tragedy in which approx 130 innocent lives were taken, would it have also warranted 'taking the game off' for the following two similar instances in Pakistan the last 12-24 months?

22 September 2013: Militants linked to the Taliban kill at least 80 people at a church in Peshawar, in one of the worst attacks on Christians

10 January 2013: Militant bombers target the Hazara Shia Muslim minority in the city of Quetta, killing 120 at a snooker hall and on a street.
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So what point are you trying to make here? What's the agenda?
 
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