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**Official** Pakistan v New Zealand in the UAE 2014

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
A)34(48) too pedestrian chasing 350 plus
nah, you had to be watching.

It wasn't a Guptill 34 where he's 3(15) for ages putting pressure on the other end until finally he slogs a few boundaries.

He was rotating the strike easily and hitting boundaries when available. He just lost wickets at the other end then got out.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
B) at least devcich failed. I note they picked him above brownlie in the pecking order
Apparently the boys on the BYC podcast love him for no other reason than he has a magnificent beard. Ugh it's gone to **** since Wells and co. left. Feel like emailing them Dan's "Devich: all that is wrong with modern cricket?" thread just to bring them up to speed.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I think the selectors really want Devcich to come good because he offers another middle overs bowling option. I know Williamson has been cleared but he's still a bit of a gamble.

That said, he only bowled two overs today despite the fact that NZ only really picked three specialist bowlers, and the allrounders used as fourth and fifth options got hammered.. so who knows really?
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
I wonder if Afridi realises just how much of an arsehole he looks by doing that stupid Flintoff ripoff celebration everytime he so much as breaks wind.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Apparently the boys on the BYC podcast love him for no other reason than he has a magnificent beard. Ugh it's gone to **** since Wells and co. left. Feel like emailing them Dan's "Devich: all that is wrong with modern cricket?" thread just to bring them up to speed.
Please do it. I might have to start re-posting it elsewhere, tbh.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Anyone else think that Ronchi should be batting higher? He's our form bat of the season, but he keeps coming in with things a lost cause. Should be batting at least 6 and maybe even 5 imo.
 

Zinzan

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That fact Devcich was given just one over & Williamson didn't even try bowling himself indicates to me that putting the fast men through their paces on a much less responsive wicket was more of a priority than winning.

So while I acknowledge it was an extremely tough situation for the fast men, I have the following concerns;

1) There was no plan B when the short ball wasn't working & there were far too many short balls around chest and not head-height. The Pakistani pace men bowled better bouncers when it was their turn.

2) What happened to the yorker? I mean I get it's not 1999 anymore when the word 'yorker' was synonymous with limited overs bowling & I do understand batsmen counter it by standing deeper in their creases, but for us to land 2-3 (I think it was) in 50 overs when clearly the short ball, length ball & even short slower balls weren't working was both perplexing & concerning.

3) Anderson & Neesham with the ball. I know I'm sounding like a broken record about the bowling of these two & I do acknowledge that Henry & McClenaghan had really bad evenings as well, but at least the latter two have some bowling credibility in the bank. For me, Neesham & Anderson just cannot be relied upon for any more than maybe 2-3 overs (at the most) between them. I just checked the most expensive ODI bowlers in the last 2 years (with 10+ wickets) and was not surprised to see these two right up there. Anderson at the death last night could not have been worse if he tried, if it wasn't one of the 5 wides he bowled, or a 125km chest high bouncer, it was the most perfectly delivered length balls that were just asking to be hit. So whoever decided Anderson is the man for the death better think again.

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It's probably a good wake-up call that this happened now, so will be interesting how the powers at be respond.
 

Flem274*

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Southee and Mitch (or Mills/Henry/Milne) will take the death overs at the world cup and we'll sneak Anderson in alongside Vettori during the middle. I think that will be the plan.
 

Zinzan

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Southee and Mitch (or Mills/Henry/Milne) will take the death overs at the world cup and we'll sneak Anderson in alongside Vettori during the middle. I think that will be the plan.
But is Anderson bowling 10 overs?
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
I think an econ rate of 6.3 is worth a 5 out of ten effort by Corey since he has bowled at the death a fair bit and secondly last night would have dented his numbers
 

Flem274*

123/5
But is Anderson bowling 10 overs?
7-10 on most days, with a few Kane overs snuck in. I'd commit to Kane being 6th bowler now he's clear. It's a risk but the alternative is playing the likes of Devcich in the top six or bringing in Munro who isn't any good at bowling with the white ball anyway. He's even more hittable than Corey and Neesh (would be a handy test match part timer though with his shape).

Two or three lesser bowlers don't add up to one good bowler anyway so I'd be putting the responsibility on the player in the team to be the allrounder to bowl his ten. I'd shield him a bit by putting him through the middle but bowling all of Anderson, KW, Neesham and Munro/Devcich in the hopes we'll squeak through isn't gonna work. We'll just have lots of 2 overs for 14 or whatever.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
I really don't understand the logic behind Williamson's absence at the bowling crease since he's been cleared. He was a useful part of our attack when he could bowl, and Devcich is clearly not in the starting XI when Baz returns to open. It would make so much sense to get plenty of overs under his belt before the world cup starts. But he hasn't bowled a single over?
 

Hurricane

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I really don't understand the logic behind Williamson's absence at the bowling crease since he's been cleared. He was a useful part of our attack when he could bowl, and Devcich is clearly not in the starting XI when Baz returns to open. It would make so much sense to get plenty of overs under his belt before the world cup starts. But he hasn't bowled a single over?

This and especially last night when there was nothing to lose.
 

Zinzan

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I think an econ rate of 6.3 is worth a 5 out of ten effort by Corey since he has bowled at the death a fair bit
But he and Neesham have the 2nd & 3rd worst ERs in the last 2 years (10+ wickets), nobody else bowls at the death?

I think an econ rate of 6.3 is worth a 5 out of ten effort by Corey since he has bowled at the death a fair bit and secondly last night would have dented his numbers
lol, that's like saying that batsmen should still get a pass in spite of his average of 20 because it was dented by some low scores :p
 
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Mike5181

International Captain
I think an econ rate of 6.3 is worth a 5 out of ten effort by Corey since he has bowled at the death a fair bit and secondly last night would have dented his numbers
His econ was 6.0 coming into the match
The first point is fair, but I'm not sure what relevance the second point has. It was a real international game. It doesn't count any less than ODIs he's played earlier in his career.
 

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