**Official** Pakistan v New Zealand in the UAE 2014

[Athlai]

Yeah that sucks but there was no way the third umpire could overturn that.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

So why is there no hot spot or snick anyway? I'm a little behind here.

Too expensive apparently.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Hate this benefit of doubt to the on field umpire rubbish. Why can't the tv umpire maje up his own damn mind? If there's no evidence of an edge just give it not out.

#SachinWasRight

 

[ohnoitsyou]

It's more so every over they're producing threatening deliveries, so to say "Well Sodhi bowled one unplayable ball in 30 overs" doesn't compute.

And that was such a bull**** decision, he did not hit it, but they can't conclusively prove it, had the on field umpire said not out, it'd have stayed not out.

You also have to look at us being much worse at playing spin.

 

[Frost]

Why can't the ICC fund the poor broadcasters ?

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Hate this benefit of doubt to the on field umpire rubbish. Why can't the tv umpire maje up his own damn mind? If there's no evidence of an edge just give it not out.

#SachinWasRight

You get slightly unfair scenarios like this sometimes but overall benefit of the doubt with the umpire is by far the best way. It discourages frivolous reviews and makes teams think twice before using them. It's a bit rough but was the right decision in the circumstances by the umpire, it's not his fault that they don't have all the tools.

 

[Blocky]

You also have to look at us being much worse at playing spin.

Our top order vs their bottom order.

The conditions absolutely suit spin. That's the only point I made. If we set Pakistan 250 to chase with say 80 overs, they'll mutilate us because we'll be looking for Sodhi and Craig to bowl at least 40 of them.

 

[Jarquis]

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Just the other day you were saying that he should be picked to at least give him the experience of bowling in these conditions. To call for him to be dropped now, after he's actually done something (albeit not a huge amount, but a wicket and a quality spell of bowling > his previous returns) is baffling to say the least.

But I guess dropping Craig would be a tacit admission that Sodhi hasn't bowled quite that badly after all and is the best immediate option, meanwhile Wagner still has to be in the team. So Boult has to be the one to take the fall to keep all of your positions relatively in tact and coherent.

Oh and Blocky can't advocate 5 bowlers either, because that means Neesham gets dropped as Anderson's actually done something in these conditions this series. He's dug himself into a deep, deep hole here -- and calling for Boult to be dropped is only making it even deeper.

Bad posting

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Ali: "Regarding the decision,for me it is lbw otherwise if NZ think it did not touch the glove. "

checkm8

 

[Athlai]

checkm8

Was at the back of my mind

 

[Blocky]

I do laugh at the idea that somehow I'm a Craig backer, solely because I believe (rightly) that Sodhi has no place in the NZ unit. And the fact that Boult is completely toothless without the new ball isn't really something anyone can argue either. But sure, lets have a moderator of this site get involved in personal pack mentality arguments because that's always fun when someone capable of dishing out infractions happens to be someone involved in the bull****.

 

[Blocky]

Was at the back of my mind

Only it likely hit outside the line.

 

[Blocky]

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Bad posting

By the way, Neesham out bowled Anderson if you didn't notice it.

 

[Athlai]

Someone disagreeing with you isn't pack mentality unless you disagree with everyone.

 

[OverratedSanity]

You get slightly unfair scenarios like this sometimes but overall benefit of the doubt with the umpire is by far the best way. It discourages frivolous reviews and makes teams think twice before using them. It's a bit rough but was the right decision in the circumstances by the umpire, it's not his fault that they don't have all the tools.

Well I think as soon as the decision is referred ththe TV umpire should make his own mind up with the tools at hand. I have no idea why the on field decision should have any bearing on the decision the tv umpire makes with multiple replays, camera angles and other tools at his disposal. Benefit of the doubt to the batsman makes perfect sense, benefit of doubt to the umpire potentially at the expense of the batsman doesn't.

I don't really think the existing system really leads to any less frivolous reviews anyway.

 

[Athlai]

Only it likely hit outside the line.

Haha yeah the one angle from the front made it look dead on but it was almost certainly well outside.

 

[Blocky]

Someone disagreeing with you isn't pack mentality unless you disagree with everyone.

Oh please. You've all gone from "Sodhi sucks balls" to "HAH, BLOCKY WAS WRONG" within the space of one innings where Sodhi went at 46 per wicket... so I don't know why you think you're not see through and I don't know why you're all holier than thou somehow thinking I've been proven wrong when.....

Boult remains toothless without the new cherry
Sodhi and Craig are both no hopers.
Anderson and Neesham aren't playing well enough to have places for both of them, Neesham has had more success in their relative careers to date.

But sure, argue those points. I'll enjoy laughing at the whole "We know cricket too Blocky! We know it!" paradox that occurs whenever these discussions take place.

 

[Athlai]

Oh please. You've all gone from "Sodhi sucks balls" to "HAH, BLOCKY WAS WRONG" within the space of one innings where Sodhi went at 46 per wicket... so I don't know why you think you're not see through and I don't know why you're all holier than thou somehow thinking I've been proven wrong when.....

Boult remains toothless without the new cherry
Sodhi and Craig are both no hopers.
Anderson and Neesham aren't playing well enough to have places for both of them, Neesham has had more success in their relative careers to date.

But sure, argue those points. I'll enjoy laughing at the whole "We know cricket too Blocky! We know it!" paradox that occurs whenever these discussions take place.

Yeah if you can back up the big claims you are making about what I've posted that'd be great.

 

[vandem]

At least a much better 3rd ump decision than last season against Bravo, where replays show ball clearly DID hit the wristband, but 3rd ump appeared not to know the rule about glove wristband being part of the glove and gave batsman not out.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Our top order vs their bottom order.

The conditions absolutely suit spin. That's the only point I made. If we set Pakistan 250 to chase with say 80 overs, they'll mutilate us because we'll be looking for Sodhi and Craig to bowl at least 40 of them.

Lets compare top order to top order. Point still stands.