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**Official** Zimbabwe in Bangladesh 2014

cnerd123

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That has been the main difference between Zimbabwe and Bangladesh supporters. Zimbabwe fans complain of some of their players missing but Bangladesh fans who are missing Mashrafe, Nasir, Anamul, Abul, Naeem not once complaining of them etc

Is it some excuse to cover Zimbabwe's losses/struggles or something? :)
Honestly none of those players are a major loss to the squad. Nasir maybe, but Mashrafe hasn't played Tests in ages and the other 3 haven't done all that well.
 

Energetic

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Honestly none of those players are a major loss to the squad. Nasir maybe, but Mashrafe hasn't played Tests in ages and the other 3 haven't done all that well.
Mashrafe is still the best and most experience pacer Bangladesh has. Even though he hasn't played tests for a long time his test record states he's the best of their pacers. No way someone like Rubel will be preferred over Mashrafe. Abul is one of the quickest bowlers of Bangladesh today plus can hold a bat. He scored a test 100 against West Indies and has the great potential to be a valuable fast bowling all-rounder for Bangladesh for tests. Even Kumar Sangakarra is impressed by the prospects Abul holds. Anamul there is no question in terms of batting talent he is Bangladesh's best. Naeem Islam is one of Bangladesh best reserve players. Shahriar Nafees not only he is experienced but has the best batting record against Zimbabwe. Nasir is just out of form but still his record is better than most Zimbabwe players.

So really Zimbabwe missing Williams who is a poor man's Shakib and others is just a blatant excuse to cover the losses. Zimbabwe simply struggle against spin and there's no hiding that. You can only field 11 players in the end after all.
 
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cnerd123

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I agree about Abul and Anamul being incredibly talented, but they aren't ready yet.

And I'm a huge Mortaza fan too, but he just doesn't have the fitness for Test Cricket. He's fine for ODIs, I don't think he is the running for the Test squad anyways.

Naeem and Nafees are good but not significantly better than the other batsmen currently in the side.

Really only Nasir in for Hom would strengthen the side.


EDIT: And I don't think anyone is claiming Zimbabwe's loss is all down to Sean Williams not being present. It's just that he would have been their best player in these conditions.
 
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Energetic

U19 Cricketer
I agree about Abul and Anamul being incredibly talented, but they aren't ready yet.

And I'm a huge Mortaza fan too, but he just doesn't have the fitness for Test Cricket. He's fine for ODIs, I don't think he is the running for the Test squad anyways.

Naeem and Nafees are good but not significantly better than the other batsmen currently in the side.

Really only Nasir in for Hom would strengthen the side.


EDIT: And I don't think anyone is claiming Zimbabwe's loss is all down to Sean Williams not being present. It's just that he would have been their best player in these conditions.
Abul and Anamul not ready yet but Jubair who hardly had any first class experience prior to this series just taken a five-for and also done well in the other 2 tests. Its all about quality and unfortunately Zimbabwe clearly lacks. You have to be aware that Mashrafe has not even retired for tests yet and management is the one that decides whether he plays or not due to Bangladesh's limited pace stocks. Naeem and Shahriar for sure is better than the likes of Hom and Shamsur and would get in the side for them so I'm afraid you're wrong on that especially in terms of experience. Both Naeem and Shahriar have scored good amount of runs against a team like Zimbabwe anyway.

Sean Williams maybe one of Zimbabwe's best but he most likely would've struggled. His bowling record in International Cricket thus far is very poor and I remember him in that first test against West Indies last year where he was clueless against the spin of Marlon Samuels and Shane Shillingford. But if Bangladesh batsman can successfully take on someone like Ajmal then they can pretty much take on any Zimbabwe spinners and so far that has been the case in this series.
 

NUFAN

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Yeah, what a phenomominul effort..

Bangladesh should declare with about 15 overs left in the day - the lead will be around 410 then and that's going to be pretty difficult to chase in 105 overs.
 

Howe_zat

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1169 runs at 61.5 is definitely the sort of start to hang faintly unhinged levels of expectation on, and from me there's no higher praise
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
I guess the selectors thought he was worth a punt after the the previous opener averaged a dreadful 21.10.
 

Energetic

U19 Cricketer
I feel Bangladesh wasted about 10 overs. Even 350 is more than enough for Zimbabwe on late day 4/5 pitch providing they don't leak runs and fielding is good. A very impressive knock by Mominul. This is his 4th 100 in 12 tests and 3 of them are unbeaten. No other Bangladesh batsman has achieved more than one 100 in their their first 12 tests. This is what separates the 2 sides even though both are minnows. Bangladesh when they tour Zimbabwe the results are pretty much 50:50 whereas when Zimbabwe tours Bangladesh the result these days are pretty much 90:10 in Bangladesh's favour. Zimbabwe have the superior pacers but Bangladesh clearly have the much superior batting and spinners. Fielding is pretty much equal.
 

grecian

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1169 runs at 61.5 is definitely the sort of start to hang faintly unhinged levels of expectation on, and from me there's no higher praise
Indeed, up into the top 10 of Banglas batsmen after 12 matches, let the unrealistic hype begin in earnest.
 

OverratedSanity

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I've been hyped for Mominul long before all of you. This doesn't really change anything. Got all his runs before this series against good teams and good bowlers. I back him to be Bangladesh's best ever batsman.
 

Howe_zat

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Why does hyping a player first become a bragging right? Why be proud of you having asked for less evidence?

I'm sure Bangladesh have had batsmen before that can make runs against the lower ranked sides at home. He's shown he's more than good enough to manage that, but as for the whole rest of Test cricket, we'll see how he goes.
 

grecian

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Why does hyping a player first become a bragging right? Why be proud of you having asked for less evidence?

I'm sure Bangladesh have had batsmen before that can make runs against the lower ranked sides at home. He's shown he's more than good enough to manage that, but as for the whole rest of Test cricket, we'll see how he goes.
OS is clearly a hipster, soon he'll be all "I preferred his early stuff, he's gone too commercial recently".
 

Dan

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Because pride in talent identification ability. Which is why I go on and on about how I thought TPC could be a Test quality bat when everybody hates on him post-10/11 Ashes, meanwhile I never mention how much I liked Phil Hughes prior to his Test debut :P

For every Mominul, OS has probably backed an Ashraful.
 

Jarquis

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Why does hyping a player first become a bragging right? Why be proud of you having asked for less evidence?
That's kinda the point though. It's not nearly as impressive if you answer a cross word clue when half the letters are already filled in is it?
 

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