*Official* Pakistan v Australia in UAE 2014

[Flem274*]

or you could just make wade the keeper opener for my entertainment

 

[social]

Yeah, this isn't really anything new. Every year Haddin is one of Australia's best players in the home summer - looks and performs like a specialist batsman in the middle and keeps tidily - then on the away tours he averages less than 30, drops catches and lets through a stack of byes.

It's why casual fans are often disproportionately huge fans of Haddin; they don't watch the away tours. (Not saying all Haddin are like this ftr).

I don't really think his place should be threatened until he either carries days like this over to home series or we believe someone like Nev or Whiteman is actually going to offer more in the awesome at home and dire away package that is Haddin. Those days may be approaching but I'd loathe to judge him purely on what he does away from home and stick a fork in him based on that because it's nothing new at all.

Haddin is 37 now and being good half the time hardly makes him indispensable.

Furthermore, if he fails here, that will be 5 crap tests in a row

BTW, I don't mind him at all and think that overall, he has had an excellent career

It's some (ok one) of his fans that annoy me

 

[vic_orthdox]

is mitchell marsh ever likely to be third seamer material? i've seen maybe 5 minutes of him since his under 19 days. if you could get a guy at #7 who can also bowl first change you could put your post-haddin keeper at #8 and just pick whoever is really good at catching. you'll be amazed to hear australian wicket keepers aren't my area but you guys have been umming and ahhing on the forum for years now about picking someone who can bat vs someone who can catch.

We won't ever be picking Marsh as the fourth bowler of an attack, nor will our keeper ever be at 8.

 

[Spikey]

I don't think picking Mitch Marsh as a bowling allrounder is a particularly good idea given Australia's fast bowling stocks.. not to mention the fact that Johnson, Pattinson, Starc and Cummins can all bat anyway (and Harris and Siddle I guess ).

The best gloveman in the country averages 40 with the bat and has a good technique anyway ftr.

Crusher Carters has only got an average of 36 thanks to Victoria

 

[Flem274*]

I don't think picking Mitch Marsh as a bowling allrounder is a particularly good idea given Australia's fast bowling stocks.. not to mention the fact that Johnson, Pattinson, Starc and Cummins can all bat anyway (and Harris and Siddle I guess ).

The best gloveman in the country averages 40 with the bat and has a good technique anyway ftr.

you'll never keep them fit

so basically all the bickering i read in the tour and domestic threads since 2010 has been pointless because nevill Can Bat?

 

[Prince EWS]

Haddin is 37 now and being good half the time hardly makes him indispensable.

Yeah I don't mind this argument. I just think it's silly to assume that this form is going to carry over to the home summer, because this sort of away performance followed by an awesome home summer is the sort of thing he's done for his entire career. If you think one of the alternatives can offer more than Haddin then that's fair enough, I'm not sure I'd argue, but I'm just not taking this as evidence of the decline because it's always happened.

 

[duffer]

but it never fails

in New South Wales.

 

[Flem274*]

nor will our keeper ever be at 8.

#nightwatchmenareforpussies

 

[Spikey]

why exactly did siddle take the new ball and then marsh take it

 

[dermo]

good thing we've got glenn maxwell in the team to dig in and save this match

 

[Prince EWS]

you'll never keep them fit

so basically all the bickering i read in the tour and domestic threads since 2010 has been pointless because nevill Can Bat?

Haha yeah I guess. Blokes like Haddin and Wade are more likely to hit Test tons and accelerate with the tail; Nev's strengths lie in his judgement and technique rather than his eye or power so he's more likely to get consistent starts and try to build partnerships with top six batsmen. He's a bit like Watling.

 

[Johnners]

Maxwell you useless ****

 

[Spikey]

why on earth are steve smith and glenn maxwell at bad pad. how is mitch marsh avoiding this

 

[DrSchultz]

MJ really having a go at Azhar Ali.

 

[dermo]

**** this is some spell, ****s been out there all day in near 40 degree heat and now he's pulling this out.

ryan harrisesque

 

[social]

why on earth are steve smith and glenn maxwell at bad pad. how is mitch marsh avoiding this

Maxwell shouldn't be there but Marsh is about 6' 5" and about as much of a short leg as I am

 

[Spikey]

Maxwell shouldn't be there but Marsh is about 6' 5" and about as much of a short leg as I am

hes also the new guy in the team. get in there bud

 

[Spikey]

darren lehmann to attend post-stumps presser, talk tough, get praised for his old school ways

 

[dermo]

still unsure why starc hasnt bowled

 

[dermo]

darren lehmann to attend post-stumps presser, talk tough, get praised for his old school ways

"we've gotta come out tomorrow and play more attacking cricket"