*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

[Jono]

One of my favourites

Yep mentioned it earlier, fantastic theme. When his song played at World War 3 1997, great moment and also made absolutely no sense.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Re-watching RAW and Orton said he and Cena was on par as Bret-Hbk and Rock-Austin. Anyone think it's at that level?

Nah, no way. They've just had plenty of clashes, and in a way that actually works against them. They have a big title match between those two every 3 months or so. Just dilutes whatever little excitement there is. Bret-HBK was nasty for all sorts of reasons, and Rock-Austin always felt special no matter what. I like both Cena and Orton, but they've just not had even one match which I can call a true all time classic, either.

 

[duffer]

Nah, no way. They've just had plenty of clashes, and in a way that actually works against them. They have a big title match between those two every 3 months or so. Just dilutes whatever little excitement there is. Bret-HBK was nasty for all sorts of reasons, and Rock-Austin always felt special no matter what. I like both Cena and Orton, but they've just not had even one match which I can call a true all time classic, either.

Yet for some reason they seem to be more over than Bret was. Watching wrestling after a long break highlights the difference between eras. Back then you needed to be a wrestler to get ME's and titles, but now you have to be a "Sports Entertainer" more so than a technician.

 

[duffer]

That said, Rusev is insanely athletic for a guy his size. I don't think the anti-American gimmick is sustainable but would love to see him and Brock go at it.

 

[Jono]

THAT kid's voice.

 

[duffer]

THAT kid's voice.

Or this

 

[Jono]

I still to this day stand by my thought that Hussan had a killer look. Should have been awesome.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Yet for some reason they seem to be more over than Bret was. Watching wrestling after a long break highlights the difference between eras. Back then you needed to be a wrestler to get ME's and titles, but now you have to be a "Sports Entertainer" more so than a technician.

Not even talking about their technical wrestling ability here, I'm saying I rarely find their matches that exciting to watch. Their match at the Rumble for example, was just a dud. They might've had good matches too, but my overall point is that their clashes just don't have that epic feel of two titans clashing imo. Won't talk about Bret-HBK because it was slightly before I got into wrestling, but every time Rock-Austin faced off it felt ****ing epic. Don't get that from Orton-Cena.

Hell I'd say Cena-Orton isn't even as good as HHH-Rock in the early 2000s. They were both at the very top of their game... HHH was amazing as a heel and Rock was at the peak of his popularity. Had lots of amazing matches (Judgement day iron man match, WM16, Backlash 2000) and the crowd always got into it.

 

[Jono]

Amazing thing about Cena and Orton was in 2002/03 everyone was predicting they'd be the next two big MEers to lead the WWE. Actually turned out that way.

 

[sledger]

I still to this day stand by my thought that Hussan had a killer look. Should have been awesome.

Was good in all regards tbh. There was no coming back from the "terrorism" angle they ran though. Shame.

 

[sledger]

Yet for some reason they seem to be more over than Bret was. Watching wrestling after a long break highlights the difference between eras. Back then you needed to be a wrestler to get ME's and titles, but now you have to be a "Sports Entertainer" more so than a technician.

It's been that way for ages now tbf.

 

[Jono]

Triple H circa 2000 - 1, 2, is this on?

 

[Jono]

I'm all grown up now *black woman singing*



Speaking of Stephanie McMahon:

all time great moment

 

[duffer]

It's been that way for ages now tbf.

Yeah, made the Eddie-Benoit embrace at Mania that awesome. Every smark marked the **** out when they saw that. Seeing as though I'm still catching up, who're the best workers in the E right now?

 

[Jono]

Yeah, made the Eddie-Benoit embrace at Mania that awesome. Every smark marked the **** out when they saw that. Seeing as though I'm still catching up, who're the best workers in the E right now?

Killed by Bradshaw and Orton






Actually probably shouldn't say the term killed with "Benoit"

 

[duffer]

From what I read Eddie couldn't cope with being the main man. They needed JBL to eventually put Cena over.

Less said about The Crippler the better but imagine how the IWC would've reacted if he didn't go over Trips and HBK.

 

[duffer]

Oh and The Nation of Domination was awesome. Their feud with DX was insanely good.


edit: Farooq and DLO!

 

[sledger]

The best worker at the moment is probably Bryan. Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns are top drawer as well. Ziggler and Cesaro also. In fact most of the roster these days is at the very least serviceable in ring.

 

[Jono]

Less said about The Crippler the better but imagine how the IWC would've reacted if he didn't go over Trips and HBK.

I'd have burned something.

 

[Jono]

From what I read Eddie couldn't cope with being the main man. They needed JBL to eventually put Cena over.

That's interesting. As in WWE made that call or Eddie admitted it?

RIP btw.