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Clause-Mystery-Choice Draft Thread 2014

watson

watson

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Going by the HowSTAT.com bowler description in the Player Profile is probably easiest. Unless the word 'spin' or 'break' is used in the bowler description then assume 'fast' (even though they might bowl under-arm and lob the ball).
 
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weeman27bob

weeman27bob

International Vice-Captain
Am I allowed to take Jack Hobbs?

From what I can tell he bowled medium pace and his only wicket in a test match was against a tail-ender.
 
harsh.ag

harsh.ag

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weeman27bob said:
Am I allowed to take Jack Hobbs?

From what I can tell he bowled medium pace and his only wicket in a test match was against a tail-ender.
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If you can get me a proper reference to his bowling style (apart from cricinfo player profile, where it just mentions "medium"), this will stand.
 
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harsh.ag

harsh.ag

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Round I

Morgieb - Glenn McGrath
Watson - Courtney Walsh
Bagapath - John Snow
G.I.Joe - Wilfred Rhodes
ohnoitsyou - Chris Cairns
Howe_zat - Sachin Tendulkar
AldoRaine18 - Bob Willis
Weeman27bob - Warwick Armstrong

Round II

Weeman27bob - Gordon Greenidge
AldoRaine18 - Virender Sehwag
Howe_zat - AB de Villers
ohnoitsyou - Geoff Boycott
G.I.Joe
Bagapath - Bob Simpson
Watson - Eddie Barlow
Morgieb - Michael Slater


Round III

AldoRaine18 - Dale Steyn
G.I.Joe
Morgieb - Fred Trueman
ohnoitsyou - Wasim Akram
Weeman27bob - Jack Hobbs
Howe_zat - Bill O'Reilly
Watson - Mike Procter
Bagapath
 
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weeman27bob

weeman27bob

International Vice-Captain
watson

watson

Banned
harsh.ag said:
If you can get me a proper reference to his bowling style (apart from cricinfo player profile, where it just mentions "medium"), this will stand.
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Something from John Arlott...

Jack Hobbs is a strong candidate for the greatest batsman ever, with a career that was interrupted by the First World War, but still resulted in 197 centuries. Although growing up in Cambridge, he played for Surrey, and became the consummate opening batsman, with a solid defence and a powerful attacking game, showing mastery of most strokes. He was known as one of the best runners between the wickets in the game, especially with his regular opening partners, Hayward and Sandham for Surrey; Rhodes and Sutcliffe for England. He was remarkable in his ability to play high quality bowling on bad pitches, especially Australian sticky wickets. He was also a splendid fielder, running out many from his favoured position in the covers, and a respectable fast- medium change bowler.

"He had all the gifts of a great batsman. They included the qualities of understanding and sensitivity to a degree that made him unique. Others scored faster; hit the ball harder; more obviously murdered bowling. No-one else, though, ever batted with more consummate skill than his, which was based essentially on an infallible sympathy with the bowled ball. Although he could improvise with quite impish virtuosity, it is no exaggeration to say that frequently - even generally - the spectator felt that the stroke he played seemed so natural as to be inevitable - or as if a choreographer had designed it as the rhythmically and poetically logical consequence of the bowler's delvery."

(From Jack Hobbs - profile of 'the Master' by John Arlott)
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Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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Disallowing Collingwood is weird. The above description of Hobbs is precisely what what people will say of Collingwood's bowling. I wouldn't describe him as "slow medium" at all; he was straight up a medium pacer. He bowled little off cutters when conditions suited I suppose but the vast majority of his Test and FC wickets would've come bowling at about 120km/hr. I'd fancy a wager on Hobbs bowling slower.

Just separate it into seamers and spinners IMO.
 
AldoRaine18

AldoRaine18

State Vice-Captain
This round's quality seems to be a bit higher than the previous two, specially with the inclusion of Hobbs. Would have picked him had I gone through his profile. :D

Feel like I jumped the gun with Steyn over there.
 
ohnoitsyou

ohnoitsyou

International Regular
AldoRaine18 said:
This round's quality seems to be a bit higher than the previous two, specially with the inclusion of Hobbs. Would have picked him had I gone through his profile. :D

Feel like I jumped the gun with Steyn over there.
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Disagree, Steyn was a great pick first up. Would have been my second pick, with Akram ahead of him on batting lone. He's better than Trueman and probably about the same worth as O'Reilly to most teams. Sure Hobbs was tempting, but gold tier bowlers are nearly always better value than gold tier bats at the start of a draft.
 
harsh.ag

harsh.ag

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weeman27bob said:
Will this do?




Source: Jack Hobbs at Taunton - Out & about - Somerset Life
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watson said:
Something from John Arlott...
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Howe_zat said:
His biography by Leo McKinstry also mentions medium-paced swing bowling.

Jack Hobbs: England's Greatest Cricketer - Leo McKinstry - Google Books
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All right then.

Prince EWS said:
Disallowing Collingwood is weird. The above description of Hobbs is precisely what what people will say of Collingwood's bowling. I wouldn't describe him as "slow medium" at all; he was straight up a medium pacer. He bowled little off cutters when conditions suited I suppose but the vast majority of his Test and FC wickets would've come bowling at about 120km/hr. I'd fancy a wager on Hobbs bowling slower.

Just separate it into seamers and spinners IMO.
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Think you might be right. It doesn't matter anyway. Everyone seems to be okay with Hobbs.
 
AldoRaine18

AldoRaine18

State Vice-Captain
ohnoitsyou said:
Disagree, Steyn was a great pick first up. Would have been my second pick, with Akram ahead of him on batting lone. He's better than Trueman and probably about the same worth as O'Reilly to most teams. Sure Hobbs was tempting, but gold tier bowlers are nearly always better value than gold tier bats at the start of a draft.
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Yeah I was torn between those two. Almost came down to a coin toss.
 
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