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***Official*** India in England 2014

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
I thought your first post was sarcastic TBH. Whenever Woakes has been mentioned in this Test, the first phrase uttered has been "He's gained a yard of pace".

Bowling well here, good pace, bit of movement, impressive.
Yep definitely not just you Dan.........every **** is harping on about it.
Just switched on for the first time in the Test and saw him clocking 86mph. Didn't realise everyone was going on and on about it.


Oh and Moeen robbed there.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Only just got up, did Broad bowl averagely and pick up a couple of fairly random wickets as the commentary suggests?

No UDRS going to be India's best bet for saving this Test.
 

King Pietersen

International Captain
Nope. Broadeh bowled well, and deserved his wickets.

Jos has kept bloody well actually. Been very impressed. Batted, and kept better than Prior thus far.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Still really not seeing the appeal in Jordan.
Yeah I was really sceptical of bringing him in here for Stokes (especially) or even Plunkett based on his first couple of Tests, but I figured he may have regained some rhythm in the nets or in his county match that we hadn't seen so I remained open-minded about it. It's looking more and more like a complete knee-jerk.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Only just got up, did Broad bowl averagely and pick up a couple of fairly random wickets as the commentary suggests?

No UDRS going to be India's best bet for saving this Test.
Nah Broad's been good. I definitely would not have dropped Stokes for this match but Broad is not the issue with that.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Yeah I was really sceptical of bringing him in here for Stokes (especially) or even Plunkett based on his first couple of Tests, but I figured he may have regained some rhythm in the nets or in his county match that we hadn't seen so I remained open-minded about it. It's looking more and more like a complete knee-jerk.
I mean, he just looks thoroughly, thoroughly mediocre to me. He might do great at FC level simply by virtue of hitting a decent length at decent pace, but at Test level I just can't see how he's going to consistently take wickets at a reasonable cost.
 

Stapel

International Regular

LegionOfBrad

International Debutant
You can't honoustly expect an umpire to see that and being pretty sure about it. I even doubt England would have reviewed that, would they have had the opportunity.
Buttler would have known. You can see from behind it was miles from the pad. Assuming Cook will have trusted the newbie it would have been reviewed and out.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nope. Broadeh bowled well.

Jos has kept bloody well actually. Been very impressed. Batted, and kept better than Prior thus far.
Damned by faint praise.

I hope people start to realise that just because you've got a regular player with shedloads of caps doesn't mean he's going to be a better option than someone who has next to no caps. Experience doesn't buy players another 30 runs or 2 wickets per match, it is the relevant skill level that wins you games. Sick of commentators going on about experience and mentioning England players as if they're greats. England have a load of decent senior players - there's only Anderson who's getting on for good of what's left.
 

Stapel

International Regular
Only just got up, did Broad bowl averagely and pick up a couple of fairly random wickets as the commentary suggests?
First of all, you get up too late, considering there is Test Cricket to be watched.

Having said that, I think it's fair to say Broad bowled a very very good line all day, smartly varying his length. I can't believe I say so, but it really looked smart.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I mean, he just looks thoroughly, thoroughly mediocre to me. He might do great at FC level simply by virtue of hitting a decent length at decent pace, but at Test level I just can't see how he's going to consistently take wickets at a reasonable cost.
He doesn't really. He does well but not exactly "great"; certainly not consistently anyway. The thing about him is that he's so inconsistent -- not from over to over so much as day to day or match to match. When he's on, he's Test standard IMO, but the technical faults in his action and especially his approach to the crease make him awful when he's not on.

If he was in good rhythm in the lead up to this match I could understand his selection to some extent but it doesn't really look like that's the case unless the pressure has evaporated that rhythm immediately. IMO, England have just decided that the bowling performance in the second Test was unacceptable and that they needed to swap the fringe players in the squad around as a result to 'send a message' or whatever, which is always an infinitely worse selection policy than actually picking your best players.
 
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Stapel

International Regular
Buttler would have known. You can see from behind it was miles from the pad. Assuming Cook will have trusted the newbie it would have been reviewed and out.
Missing the pad was obvious, but the very very tight touch of the glove? Not sure. Anyway, mood point.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
You can't honoustly expect an umpire to see that and being pretty sure about it. I even doubt England would have reviewed that, would they have had the opportunity.
Both close fielders knew for absolute certain it had hit his glove. On review though it is a difficult one for the Umpire, which shows yet again why we need DRS.
 

Viscount Tom

International Debutant
If he was in good rhythm in the lead up to this match I could understand his selection to some extent but it doesn't really look like that's the case unless the pressure has evaporated that rhythm immediately. IMO, England have just decided that the bowling performance in the second Test was unacceptable and that they needed to swap the fringe players in the squad around as a result to 'send a message' or whatever, which is also an infinitely worse selection policy than actually picking your best players.
Made worse by the fact that the fringe bowlers were the best bowlers.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah I get the feeling that there was always a reason why Jordan sucked at FC level, and that him getting quicker masked over it a bit during his time at Sussex.
 

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