***Official*** South Africa in Sri Lanka 2014

[cnerd123]

I'm just curious on how the cricket world would have reacted had this been Pakistan or Sri Lanka caught ball tampering 3 times in 9 months, during a run to the top of the test rankings.

It's a bit grand to claim that all bowlers do this and it's only the South Africans who have been caught. I mean there is TV coverage for every detail of a cricket match; you can't pick your nose without a camera spotting it. If they were scratching at the ball all the time, we would know.

And even if it is true; it's besides the point. It's cheating. It deserves a stricter punishment.

 

[social]

And then the likes of Lillee, Hadlee, Marshall and virtually every other bowler who "worked the ball" a bit got of scot free.

It's irrelevant as SA have been caught dead to rights a number of times and should have received far bigger penalties

They will simply continue cheating whilst the penalties remain a joke

 

[social]

I'm just curious on how the cricket world would have reacted had this been Pakistan or Sri Lanka caught ball tampering 3 times in 9 months, during a run to the top of the test rankings.

It's a bit grand to claim that all bowlers do this and it's only the South Africans who have been caught. I mean there is TV coverage for every detail of a cricket match; you can't pick your nose without a camera spotting it. If they were scratching at the ball all the time, we would know.

And even if it is true; it's besides the point. It's cheating. It deserves a stricter punishment.

Branded them cheats and subjected them to ridicule as has happened in the past

 

[kykweer.proteas]

Tell that to Imran, Wasim, Waqar and virtually any Pakistani

Those guys were INFINITELY better bowlers than Philander and have suffered ridicule for years

Big Vern and his mates got off incredibly lightly and he should be spending a long time on the sidelines (not that it would harm SA as he has been exposed)

Excuse me while I giggle at your attempt to suggest that Imran, Wasim, Waqar and virtually any Pakistani never ever interfered with the natural condition of the cricket ball.

 

[harsh.ag]

Excuse me while I giggle at your attempt to suggest that Imran, Wasim, Waqar and virtually any Pakistani never ever interfered with the natural condition of the cricket ball.

He didn't say that. They caught far more ridicule than what Philander is getting now, was his point.

 

[kykweer.proteas]

I'm just curious on how the cricket world would have reacted had this been Pakistan or Sri Lanka caught ball tampering 3 times in 9 months, during a run to the top of the test rankings.

It's a bit grand to claim that all bowlers do this and it's only the South Africans who have been caught. I mean there is TV coverage for every detail of a cricket match; you can't pick your nose without a camera spotting it. If they were scratching at the ball all the time, we would know.

And even if it is true; it's besides the point. It's cheating. It deserves a stricter punishment.

Then this debate should entirely be based on the ICC changing the severity of their penalties? Surely there must be a reason? surely if scratching the cricket ball gets a stricter punishment (which you dont suggest) of say 5 test matches for... changing the natural condition of the ball... then on the scale of severity what punishment will shining the ball be? using spit? That also affects swing?

 

[social]

Excuse me while I giggle at your attempt to suggest that Imran, Wasim, Waqar and virtually any Pakistani never ever interfered with the natural condition of the cricket ball.

I'm not saying that they didn't but SA's attempt to fob this off is laughable

Compare it to the world-wide criticism of the Pakistanis over they years

Some of the SA team are cheats and someone should have copped a massive sanction for it

On the upside, it just goes to show how good we are

 

[kykweer.proteas]

He didn't say that. They caught far more ridicule than what Philander is getting now, was his point.

That I agree with... the public would be more severe on the Pakistani's and give out more ridicule unfortunately... Hopefully guidelines by the ICC would be just as consistent though.

 

[kykweer.proteas]

I am not defending VP. What he did was not right and he got punished for it. Rightly so.

I also agree that if Pak did this in a test series It would blow up ridiculously... which is sad.

But should it deserve a lenghty ban to anyone? No ways. It will cause more problems.

 

[Jono]

Yes there is absolutely no doubt there would be a bigger uproar if Pakistan, India or Lanka had been caught doing what SA have been caught doing in recent times. Undeniable.

Saffers better be careful though. They'll eventually test the public's patience though.

 

[social]

Yes there is absolutely no doubt there would be a bigger uproar if Pakistan, India or Lanka had been caught doing what SA have been caught doing in recent times. Undeniable.

Saffers better be careful though. They'll eventually test the public's patience though.

TBH, I don't think people care enough about Philander for that to be the case

The Pakistanis, Johnson, Broad, etc are pantomime villains but he is a bit of a non-entity

 

[kykweer.proteas]

The issue also may get a "smaller" punishment because the media broadcasters are not administered by a unbiased body that could monitor activities.

Like Supersport in south africa would never have shown this footage, Ten sports would not have shown a sri lankan players messing with the ball either if it was not aired live.

I mean how would you enforce an all covering blanket of fairness? when I play home I can scratch the ball but you cant? Match officials are not directors.

 

[Jono]

True. Though I think if SA had won the series vs. Australia with some dodgy stuff **** would hit the fan here.

@social

 

[kykweer.proteas]

imagine touring Australia... They would have full time analysts that follow the ball for 90 overs of the opposing team being on the field pointing out any suspicious activity to possibly get a player banned the whole series.

Players will start appealing instead of just pleading guilty to avoid a lingering hearing too. So possibly every test will be followed by a few appeals and accusations.

While the media house of the home team ignoring all their indiscretions

 

[social]

imagine touring Australia... They would have full time analysts that follow the ball for 90 overs of the opposing team being on the field pointing out any suspicious activity to possibly get a player banned the whole series.

Players will start appealing instead of just pleading guilty to avoid a lingering hearing too. So possibly every test will be followed by a few appeals and accusations.

While the media house of the home team ignoring all their indiscretions

Ball tampering is hardly a new issue so I doubt this would be the case unless it is a slow news day

Anyway, SA's problem is that they have been caught a couple of times and they deserve all the adverse media attention that comes their way

 

[kykweer.proteas]

Ball tampering is hardly a new issue so I doubt this would be the case unless it is a slow news day

Anyway, SA's problem is that they have been caught a couple of times and they deserve all the adverse media attention that comes their way

I disagree. If Faf was facing a lengthy ban he would most certainly appealed. Warner accused SA with no proof of anything... then there is this incident.

What has been the most sever punishment for ball tampering?

The best is for the icc to review their policy, but after the Tendulkar incident in 2001, odds are the penalties will remain as is for a very long time still.

 

[marc71178]

ICC would give a harsh punishment if what VP did was such a big issue.

Haven't seen the footage. But I remember the faf incident and faf admitted guilt to escape harder punishment guilty or not.

If he was innocent, there's no way he'd admit guilt.

 

[Heboric]

Ball tampering is hardly a new issue so I doubt this would be the case unless it is a slow news day

Anyway, SA's problem is that they have been caught a couple of times and they deserve all the adverse media attention that comes their way

I am quite sure there will be zero sleepless nights by the Proteas of the thought of adverse media attention.

Years of dodgy English and Australian media, plus the occasionally wheeling out of Ian Chappell have made them immune.

 

[Valer]

If he was innocent, there's no way he'd admit guilt.

People take plea bargains when innocent* all the time why should cricket be any different?

*and/or guilty of a less crime.

 

[YorksLanka]

Eranga been ruled out of second test following his split web. Prasad and Welagedara(please God, no) drafted into squad.. Just reading that Gamage, one of our youngsters in the A team took a hattrick today against Durham ,here in the UK..looks promising as I gather he has done well generally.hope so for the future..I would hope that Prasad comes in for the second test to replace Eranga, and hopefully he will be back for the Pakistan series