***Official*** New Zealand in the West Indies 2014

[Flem274*]

Hendrix stop.

If you stop, it stops.

 

[hendrix]

Vettori and Ryder.

God if we could have this, plus Jeets:
Latham
McCullum
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Anderson/Neesham
Watling
Vettori
Jeets
Southee
Boult

would be very ***c

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Woo! Woo! Palm Singing!

 

[WindieWeathers]

I'm trying to imagine how a team that has just replaced it's captain, 3 bowlers and 2 batsman can be considered "settled" and without "question marks over selections".

Nope. So it can't be West Indies you're talking about.

Must be NZ.

I suppose only 2 changes in personnel over 6 months and coming off back-to-back series wins is pretty "confident and settled", why yes indeed.

What i meant is..

1. questions marks over who opens and whether Mccullum should be forced up the order again

2. rumours craig getting dropped for wagner

3. neesham could be dropped for anderson

That's not a "settled" team is it? and as for confidence!!..well "you're only as good as your last game" as the old saying goes...meanwhile WI will probably go with the same side... it may not make an ounce of difference in the third test...but i think logic would suggest i'm right on this one.

 

[WindieWeathers]

So let me get this straight, when WI loss to NZ they have a 2nd string team and when they win they have their best team playing. Gotcha. I may as well play the same game, we were missing Southee and Ryder on that 2012 tour, this tour are missing Vettori and Ryder.

Gayle, Roach and Taylor injured

Brathwaite held up due to visa

Darren Bravo forced to leave tour early

Kirk Edwards had to be a makeshift opener

NZ played very well against us...but their efforts were built around taking advantage of our weak attack...every test Taylor was milking them and we couldn't get rid of the tail...the difference between that attack and the one in this series is night and day.

 

[ImpatientLime]

And yet you still got smashed in the first test.

 

[hendrix]

the way a team becomes confident and settled and devoid of selection questions is by winning one match, apparently.

 

[OverratedSanity]

What i meant is..

1. questions marks over who opens and whether Mccullum should be forced up the order again

2. rumours craig getting dropped for wagner

3. neesham could be dropped for anderson

That's not a "settled" team is it? and as for confidence!!..well "you're only as good as your last game" as the old saying goes...meanwhile WI will probably go with the same side... it may not make an ounce of difference in the third test...but i think logic would suggest i'm right on this one.

No team in world cricket is ever 100% "settled". Not a single one.

 

[WindieWeathers]

the way a team becomes confident and settled and devoid of selection questions is by winning one match, apparently.

Yep....couldn't argue the points i made just like i expected....

And anyone thinking a team will be high on confidence after losing by 10 wickets is fooling themselves...but i digress, may the best team win the last test match.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I remember the Indian team in Australia in 2012 being wonderfully settled with virtually no changes being made throughout the tour. Shows you how relevant his argument is.

 

[hendrix]

Yep....couldn't argue the points i made just like i expected....

Your points were ludicrous and weren't worth arguing. Things that apply to the Windies apparently don't apply to other teams and vice versa.

Honestly, I've been your biggest defender on many occasions but this is just rubbish posting. Windies aren't any more confident or settled than NZ.

The series is evenly poised, as reflected in the scoreline. Fortunately, we have a final test to look forward to.

 

[WindieWeathers]

I remember the Indian team in Australia in 2012 being wonderfully settled with virtually no changes being made throughout the tour. Shows you how relevant his argument is.

So a team is better when it's constantly being changed? ok then.

 

[Flem274*]

Your points were ludicrous and weren't worth arguing.

Then why did you ****ing talk to it anyway?

 

[OverratedSanity]

 

[Dan]

This thread doesn't need live cricket any more.

This thread needs this tour to hurry up and end. Absolute trainwreck.

 

[ImpatientLime]

Yep....couldn't argue the points i made just like i expected....

And anyone thinking a team will be high on confidence after losing by 10 wickets is fooling themselves...but i digress, may the best team win the last test match.

Lol, what a joke. By that you mean the West Indies, because should they lose the excuses will come flowing out again.

 

[WindieWeathers]

This thread doesn't need live cricket any more.

This thread needs this tour to hurry up and end. Absolute trainwreck.

Too many sensitive souls. It was all "cumbaya", peace signs and happiness after the first test. Then the mood seemed to change after the second test, i don't know why........

 

[Dan]

Too many sensitive souls. It was all "cumbaya", peace signs and happiness after the first test. Then the mood seemed to change after the second test, i don't know why........

You have a very selective memory.

After the First Test was dire. After the Second Test was still dire. Before the series was dire. The in-play discussion whenever it got above "oooh nice shot" has been dire. I've said as much every step of the ****ing way.

Don't turn this into yet another nationalistic argument.


WW, you continue this line of argument and you get 8 points. You're incredibly lucky that I'm not straight-up giving you 5 for trolling.
NZers, you respond to this argument with counter-nationalism and you get 8 points as well. Don't assume that my love of Kane Williamson means I'm going to be soft on infractions.

 

[Beamer]

Too many sensitive souls. It was all "cumbaya", peace signs and happiness after the first test. Then the mood seemed to change after the second test, i don't know why........

No it's you and Blocky that are making it a trainwreck IMHO. All I want to do is discuss the cricket on this tour without the pointless chest beating and posts deliberately aimed at winding up opposition supporters. Sensible debate about the merits of individual cricketers on both teams (e.g Bravo v Williamson, Watling v Ramdin, Southee/Boult v Taylor/Roach) is welcome and we've had some really good discussions but you and Blocky take the nationalistic stuff too far.

Anyway, Dan said it all in the above post. Hope we can have a good discussion during the final test.

 

[sledger]

No it's you and Blocky that are making it a trainwreck IMHO. All I want to do is discuss the cricket on this tour without the pointless chest beating and posts deliberately aimed at winding up opposition supporters. Sensible debate about the merits of individual cricketers on both teams (e.g Bravo v Williamson, Watling v Ramdin, Southee/Boult v Taylor/Roach) is welcome and we've had some really good discussions but you and Blocky take the nationalistic stuff too far.

Anyway, Dan said it all in the above post. Hope we can have a good discussion during the final test.