New Zealand Off Season 2014

[Hurricane]

Seddon Park has typically been pretty good for the spinners, especially this latest season - though the curator got plenty of scorn from the players and the public for producing pitches that suited the opposition, so I'm not sure if that'll necessarily stay the same going forward. McLean park also started to shake off its automatic-draw reputation, and produced a couple of good spinning pitches. If those two can push ahead, then our players would be exposed to a decent amount of turn next season.

McCullum tends to come down the wicket against the spinners fairly frequently, though he isn't as judicious about it as Williamson is. Taylor is bad about it though. Of all the top quality batsmen in the world today, Taylor is probably the most reticent to charge the spinners. The fact that he's still a pretty good player of spin says wonders about his footwork, his technique and his hand-eye coordination.

Thanks for that post lets hope those two grounds are consistent this year as per last year.

I don't have memories of baz really using his feet except if he wanted to go all the way for a six but perhaps I am wrong. Everyone should be batting like KW does against spin even at club level. Push the fielders back to the ropes then use the full depth of the crease to get right back and read the spin off the pitch (which will make them start tossing them up further) and then start chipping down the wicket.

Overseas (non new zealand) spinners don't bowl any pies period. And that goes down to club level. You will be waiting a long time to score runs if you sit in your crease.

In high school cricket there is no need to use your feet to spin - as you get free gifts every over - while medium paced bowling is at quite an advanced level by the time you are 16.

 

[Hurricane]

Baz only comes down the wicket when he's trying to hit a boundary. Williamson has clearly taken notes from Clarke's book in that he comes down the wicket even if he's looking to defend.

Yeah this is my memory too.

 

[Kippax]

Seddon Park has typically been pretty good for the spinners, especially this latest season - though the curator got plenty of scorn from the players and the public for producing pitches that suited the opposition, so I'm not sure if that'll necessarily stay the same going forward.

Half of Seddon Park's square will be Patumahoe next season iirc, Eden Park's clay.

Shots off both feet, bad for Bangladesh, no Watling required, etc.

 

[Prince EWS]

Everyone should be batting like KW

The dream.

 

[Dan]

The dream.

Cribb just wants the influx of more fangirls coming out of cricketers being more like KW. The aesthetics of batsmen improving dramatically is a nice bonus.

 

[Kippax]

Ryder can be seen in a T20 at 11pm ftr.

There's his Middlesex oppo -

Eoin Morgan (Captain)
Dan Christian
Joe Denly
Neil Dexter
Steven Finn
James Harris
Dawid Malan
Ravi Patel
Harry Podmore
Ollie Rayner
Toby Roland-Jones
Adam Rossington
Gurjit Sandhu
John Simpson
Paul Stirling

Essex squad to face Middlesex Panthers at Lord's:

Alastair Cook (26)

Mark Pettini (24)

Ravi Bopara (25)

Greg Smith (83)

Ben Foakes (4)

James Foster (7)

Tom Westley (21)

Jesse Ryder (76)

Monty Panesar (77)

Matt Salisbury (18)

Graham Napier (17)

Oliver Newby (-)

Reece Topley (6)

 

[Kippax]

Essex bowling first.

If you want to see Ryder's batting it'll be at about 12.30 now. SS4 in New Zealand doing it I see.

 

[Kippax]

Worcestershire v Essex - Day 1

Those Worcs opening bowlers at the end of the video aren't looking too good. Could be up to Ajmal to test Ryder.

Ian Butler on 27* down at 9, right in Northants' engine room. Maybe Dan's right, I need to respect Plunket cricket more.

 

[Bahnz]

Worcestershire v Essex - Day 1

Those Worcs opening bowlers at the end of the video aren't looking too good. Could be up to Ajmal to test Ryder.

Ian Butler on 27* down at 9, right in Northants' engine room. Maybe Dan's right, I need to respect Plunket cricket more.

I would say that second division county cricket is on par or slightly weaker than the PS. Hamish Marshall has been averaging 50 there for years after spending the better part of a decade struggling to break 30 for ND.

 

[Flem274*]

I reckon there might just be a dilution in what runs and wickets mean because there are so many teams. you can average 50 and be a genuine test player or you can average 50 and bat like marshall.

we have it a bit as well, but in a different way (the lower you bat, the easier batting is) hence munro's fc domination isn't as respectable as what papps and latham did last season.

 

[Athlai]

Which is why Ronchi will never get picked to back up the batting in Tests

 

[Flem274*]

weren't you one of the people saying he should or would likely be second reserve after ryder?

 

[Athlai]

weren't you one of the people saying he should or would likely be second reserve after ryder?

He got picked as a backup Test bat for the WI tour IIRC. Eat ****.

 

[Flem274*]

what were the reserves? unwanted opener, neesham, ronchi, fast bowler?

stupid call regardless. back up keeper only.

 

[theegyptian]

I would say that second division county cricket is on par or slightly weaker than the PS. Hamish Marshall has been averaging 50 there for years after spending the better part of a decade struggling to break 30 for ND.

As a gloucestershire fan I can tell you that Marshall has been no where near averaging 50 every season even without looking at the stats but here they are for you. The Home of CricketArchive

Last season and his first season are the two occasion he's averaged 50 and career average of 38.5 for Glos. The Home of CricketArchive


But yes the standard in the second division isn't great. Almost certainly worse than your domestic game. Some good players but the schedule is so mad that teams without strength in depth (which is the second division teams) struggle to keep their first choice team on the field and the backup players tend to be not upto standard.

 

[Flem274*]

i wouldn't want to pass much judgement on CC until we give it the Colin Munro test.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

i wouldn't want to pass much judgement on CC until we give it the Colin Munro test.

They failed the Jeets test. And that's first division we're talking about.

 

[RxGM]

And Butler is having a solid debut for Northants, had Rogers dropped on not many and scored some tail decent runs

Middx 262/3 (82.0 ov, NJ Dexter 35*, JL Denly 20*, MA Chambers 0/35) - Stumps | Live Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

With Butler, Ryder, Patel, Williamson, Marshall & potentially Munro/Mitch all playing CC this season it is the most kiwis we have had in that comp for a while.

 

[Kippax]

Video | ECB Video

Butler and Hall accused of "having little thrust". PEWS to rage.

Northants should've hired Milne from Frinton-on-Sea or wherever. At least buy a guy who'll bruise a few ****s on the way down.

 

[Flem274*]

Is Milne playing in a grade where 140kph bouncers and yorkers ad nauseum will earn him truckloads of cheap wickets?