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*Official* English Football Season 2013-14

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Certainly if you don't want to watch live football in a stadium (something I will never understand) that is true but I think there are enough people that enjoy going to watch games live, and that want to take their kids, to keep it going.
That's where Rangers will be in big trouble soon if they don't pull their finger out. The 'football' we get served up should be made illegal.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The funny thing is here I'm pretty much socialist to the very core. Yet in the end is anyone showing me figures about how the big success of the top clubs is hurting the lower leagues?

In fact the lower divisions crowds have hugely benefitted from the Prem becoming massive in my memory. The fact is people are getting blasé about football being hugely popular and forgetting before the Prem it was meh amongst most of the population. How many football league teams have gone bust in the last 20 years, compared to the 20 years before, and you irritatingly young people won't remember but in the 70s and 80s there was a story every week about clubs on the brink.

Pothas team is clearly doing well because all the Sky money pumped into it though, and so should be looked on with disdain.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Yeah you're probably right Grecian (first time those words have been seen on CW) - I think in reality it's my own club rather than the football league I should have concerns about. But then you think about things like the EPPP and that has the potential to change things. We made millions through the 90s and 00s selling the likes of Ian Nolan, Ryan Taylor, Jason Koumas and it will become harder for that to happen.

That being said, as grim as things are for us, around the time I was born we were getting sub 2000 through the gates and we were in that ghastly division 4. Of course we may be there next season...
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be allowed to happen under FIFA regulations. Rings a bell that they made some sort of law whereby each FIFA member that already has one has to keep their promotion/relegation system. Whether this would/could be enforced in practice though I don't really know as I don't know this area that well.
America and Australia don't have promotion and that though do they? Could be wrong
 

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Swansea, Hull and Cardiff are Premiership teams that I still think of as sub-Championship. I think you sort of need either a lot of investment or to be exceptionally well-run. Luck helps a lot too, the Championship is that kind of league. Some really poor teams go up with an average striker hitting a good run of form just before the playoffs.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Swansea, Hull and Cardiff are Premiership teams that I still think of as sub-Championship. I think you sort of need either a lot of investment or to be exceptionally well-run. Luck helps a lot too, the Championship is that kind of league. Some really poor teams go up with an average striker hitting a good run of form just before the playoffs.
All big cities though, always the potential for top tier football in those places. Hull was famously the biggest in Europe not to have had top division football until they actually got it.

You'll always have situations like Leeds, the Sheffield clubs and on the other side of the coin Wigan etc but the majority of the top tier will usually settle on clubs from the big cities. London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, think half the prem teams at the min are from those, if not more.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
America and Australia don't have promotion and that though do they? Could be wrong
Yeah that's why I specified countries that already have one because it definitely wouldn't be true otherwise. I can't remember exactly what the article that I read said, I'll try and find it.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Michael Owen certainly well placed to talk about players knowing when to go down given he made a career of it. Stonewall pen for mine anyhow.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Silva was two feet offside for City's second. :(

We all know Kolarov is fantastic up-front, but he has been brilliant defensively here too.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
All big cities though, always the potential for top tier football in those places. Hull was famously the biggest in Europe not to have had top division football until they actually got it.

You'll always have situations like Leeds, the Sheffield clubs and on the other side of the coin Wigan etc but the majority of the top tier will usually settle on clubs from the big cities. London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, think half the prem teams at the min are from those, if not more.
Not a football town tho, tbf.

Guess one could maybe make the same case for Cardiff and Swansea too.

Do Wales have promotion or relegation seeing as half their 'big' sides play in England anyway.
Ha, quite. Merthyr Town reckon playing in the Southern League Div 1 (which is four promotions away from the league: Southern Div 1-Southern Prem-Conference South-Conference) a better bet than the Welsh Premier League, or whatever it's called.
 

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Loving that Kagawa-Mata-Januzaj trio.

Bad day for Norwich. Fulham away next week, will be in massive trouble if they lose.

I'd really like to see them go down. Most negative team in the league.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Na na na na na na na na na na we've got Ryan Lowe Ryan Lowe we've got Ryan Lowe

20 goals oh yeah
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Good win for us today, but **** me did everyone else around the bottom have to win as well? Unbeaten in 5 including Leyton Orient away and Brentford and yet we aren't getting any further away from relegation, still only 4 points in it. Only 6 points between 12th and 21st
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Loving that Kagawa-Mata-Januzaj trio.

Bad day for Norwich. Fulham away next week, will be in massive trouble if they lose.

I'd really like to see them go down. Most negative team in the league.
In an ideal world, Stoke would be accompanying Fulham and Cardiff but that's not going to happen. WBA are cod ordinary, but they seem to be finding some sort of form. I suppose the big question is what Sunderland do with their games in hand.

You're right that Norwich look in trouble though. I'd like to see them stay up, admittedly not entirely for what they're doing on the pitch.
 

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