The Best of Each Decade Birthday DRAFT

[watson]

Watson, what are the numbers in brackets after each player's name?

They are batting and/or bowling 'Highest Ratings' according to the ICC. I was interested to find out what sort of scores the Gold Tier players achieve.

http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/ranking/test/batting/
http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/faq.php

Incidently, a highest/peak rating includes all of the players career right up until the time that the peak is reached and recorded. The graphs that track the career of the Gold Tier ATG players tend to show a plateau because they sustain their form over a longer period. Lesser players merely show a spike in their Rating. And obviously, players with short careers like Barry Richards, or atypical careers like WG Grace will give unreliable or biased Ratings.

Whether it becomes a useful or interesting exercise remains to be seen. However, I will say that Faulkner's batting and bowling Ratings have changed my perception of him a little. I used to view him as a 'pure' allrounder, or even a bowler who could bat very well. However, his batting Rating is excellent, and significantly better than his bowling Rating (relative to frontline batsman and bowlers).

 

[chasingthedon]

They are batting and/or bowling 'Highest Ratings' according to the ICC. I was interested to find out what sort of scores the Gold Tier players achieve.

Reliance ICC Player Rankings
Reliance ICC Player Rankings

Incidently, a highest/peak rating includes all of the players career right up until the time that the peak is reached and recorded. The graphs that track the career of the Gold Tier ATG players tend to show a plateau because they sustain their form over a longer period. Lesses players merely show a spike in their Rating.

Whether it becomes a useful or interesting exercise remains to be seen. However, I will say that Faulkner's batting and bowling Ratings have changed my perception of him a little. I used to view him as a 'pure' allrounder, or even a bowler who could bat very well. However, his batting Rating is excellent, and significantly better than his bowling Rating (relative to frontline batsman and bowlers).

In my career impact analysis, he shows up as having had exactly the same level of impact with bat and ball. No one else is that balanced as an all-rounder.

 

[AldoRaine18]

They are batting and/or bowling 'Highest Ratings' according to the ICC. I was interested to find out what sort of scores the Gold Tier players achieve.

Reliance ICC Player Rankings
Reliance ICC Player Rankings

Incidently, a highest/peak rating includes all of the players career right up until the time that the peak is reached and recorded. The graphs that track the career of the Gold Tier ATG players tend to show a plateau because they sustain their form over a longer period. Lesses players merely show a spike in their Rating.

Whether it becomes a useful or interesting exercise remains to be seen. However, I will say that Faulkner's batting and bowling Ratings have changed my perception of him a little. I used to view him as a 'pure' allrounder, or even a bowler who could bat very well. However, his batting Rating is excellent, and significantly better than his bowling Rating (relative to frontline batsman and bowlers).

How would you view these ratings for players who didn't play a lot of tests? As we can pick any player even someone who never played a single test based on ability, I think it could be unfair for the ones who didn't play a lot of tests. For example, do you agree with Barry Richards' ratings?

 

[watson]

How would you view these ratings for players who didn't play a lot of tests? As we can pick any player even someone who never played a single test based on ability, I think it could be unfair for the ones who didn't play a lot of tests. For example, do you agree with Barry Richards' ratings?

Obviously, players with short careers like Barry Richards, or atypical careers like WG Grace will give unreliable or biased Ratings.

I think that it is a 'logical assumption' that both Richards and Grace would have achieved a Rating of 900ish given the enormity of their talent and First Class career.

 

[watson]

In my career impact analysis, he shows up as having had exactly the same level of impact with bat and ball. No one else is that balanced as an all-rounder.

Yes, that's how I read his stat's, although I didn't go into them in any mathmatical detail like you.

 

[chasingthedon]

Yes, that's how I read his stat's, although I didn't go into them in any mathmatical detail like you.

Obviously not a sad bastard like me

 

[watson]

Obviously not a sad bastard like me

Whatever rows your boat

 

[Pothas]

All these pace bowler clearly overrated.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

How the **** did you manage to get Warne and Murali, with Miller for the 5 man attack

 

[kyear2]

How the **** did you manage to get Warne and Murali, with Miller for the 5 man attack

Isn't it your turn?

 

[chasingthedon]

Isn't it your turn?

No, it's yours - ohno took Andy Roberts.

 

[kyear2]

Jim Laker 1920's

 

[Red]

You've got another pick Kyear

 

[kyear2]

I know, figuring out the best choice.

Can I edit picks since no one else would have picked as yet?

 

[ohnoitsyou]

don't count on getting Laker the round after next if you do

 

[Red]

I know, figuring out the best choice.

Can I edit picks since no one else would have picked as yet?

Don't see why you can't edit your Laker pick if you want to. Doesn't effect anything.

 

[kyear2]

Nah will leave it. Would feel like cheating later on.

Fast bowlers going too fast.

Sir Wes Hall 1930's

 

[kyear2]

Kirksland XI

01.
02.
03. Sir I.V.A. Richards
04.
05.
06.
07.
08. Sir Wesley Hall
09. Jim Laker
10. Dennis Lillee
11.

Not as happy with this draft as the last.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Thought you would be after a WI quick kyear.


I will take Charles Macartney (1880s) for some class at the top of the order.

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-Charles Macartney
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-Garry Sobers
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-Ray Lindwall
-Andy Roberts
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[watson]

Must admit the Andy Roberts pick confused me as well . Time for another update I think.

DECADES USED SO FAR
01. AldoRaine18: <=1870s - 1920s - 1940s - 1950s
02. Ankitj: 1890s - 1950s - 1970s
03. Blakus: 1900s - 1920s - 1960s
04. Camo999: <=1870s - 1880s - 1960s
05. Chasingthedon: 1880s - 1910s - 1970s
06. Fredfertang: 1900s - 1950s - 1960s
07. Howe_Zat: 1920s - 1950s - 1970s
08. Kyear2: 1920s - 1930s - 1940s - 1950s
09. Monk: 1910s - 1940s - 1960s - 1970s
10. Morgieb: 1900s - 1940s- 1970s
11. ohnoitsyou: 1880s - 1920s - 1930s - 1950s
12. Pothas: 1910s - 1960s - 1970s
13. Saint Kopite: 1890s - 1900s - 1930s
14. watson: 1940s - 1950s - >=1980s


ROUND 3
29. Howe_Zat - Clyde Walcott (938)
30. Pothas - Muttiah Muralitharan (920)
31. Ankitj - Clarrie Grimmett (901)
32. Camo999 - WG Grace (679/311)
33. Blakus - Allan Donald (895)
34. watson - Greg Chappell (883/234)
35. Saint Kopite- Fred Trueman (898)
36. Morgieb- Sunil Gavaskar (916)
37. Fredfertang- Joel Garner (890)
38. Chasingthedon- Alec Bedser (903)
39. Monk - Graeme Pollock (927)
40. AldoRaine18 - Barry Richards (586)
41. ohnoitsyou - Andy Roberts (891)
42. Kyear2 - Jim Laker (897)

ROUND 4
43. Kyear2 - Wes Hall
44. Ohnoitsyou - Charlie Macartney
45. AldoRaine18 - Everton Weekes
46. Monk - Ricky Ponting
47. Chasingthedon
48. Fredfertang
49. Morgieb
50. Saint Kopite
51. Watson
52. Blakus
53. Camo999
54. Ankitj
55. Pothas
56. Howe_Zat

BTW Please let me know if I make any mistakes or typos as soon as you spot them. Don't want any disasters suddenly revealed when we get to the pointy end of the draft.