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***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14
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Philhughesisbes
School Boy/Girl Captain
Man those batsmen are literally afraid.I haven"t seen anything like that before.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
FFS great girst up
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Hooksey
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Did you watch the Ashes series?
howardj
International Coach
Hooksey
Banned
What a trooper
Woodster
International Captain
Can enjoy watching the Mitchell Johnson factor a little more in this series having feared for another England collapse in the last series. He does offer something very few sides around the world have had in recent times with the fear factor and sustained spells of genuine quick and hostile bowling. I try not to over-emphasise his influence on this Australian side and on the bowling attack in general because I think that does a rather large dis-service to Ryan Harris in particular and the jobs done by Siddle, Lyon and Watson. But there's no doubt he is leading this attack, yet the excellent support he's receiving from the other bowlers enhances his effectiveness, and I'm sure that works the other way too.
Philhughesisbes
School Boy/Girl Captain
Yes i did watch it.I meant i havent seen a bowler instill this amount of fear in batsmen before.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I'll probably be bitten in the arse pretty much immediately by the tail sticking around for ages here, but I think the main advantage of Johnson bowling like this is that anyone who isn't a Test standard batsman becomes a rank tailender against him.
England and South Africa both have lower orders with serious nuicance value but England's tail got rolled out for nothing time and time again in the Ashes, and South Africa's was in the first innings too (and McLaren here again). It means you can't really go in with five bowlers and hope for a bowling allrounder to stick around and hit fifty at seven or eight like South Africa have here, or have the tail bail you out occasionally when the top order fails. Lower order batsmen just have no idea against him; they're scared. The only real hope of anyone who isn't specialist batsman quality making some runs against a Johnson-led attack is by throwing a bat a bit. I really rate Robbie P as a lower order bat but I'd be surprised if he got to 15 unless Johnson was taken out of the attack beforehand.
As I said, cue South Africa's tail sticking around now that I've said that, but it's something that's really stood out for me. He's taken lots of top orders wickets too of course but I actually think this is his greatest utility.
England and South Africa both have lower orders with serious nuicance value but England's tail got rolled out for nothing time and time again in the Ashes, and South Africa's was in the first innings too (and McLaren here again). It means you can't really go in with five bowlers and hope for a bowling allrounder to stick around and hit fifty at seven or eight like South Africa have here, or have the tail bail you out occasionally when the top order fails. Lower order batsmen just have no idea against him; they're scared. The only real hope of anyone who isn't specialist batsman quality making some runs against a Johnson-led attack is by throwing a bat a bit. I really rate Robbie P as a lower order bat but I'd be surprised if he got to 15 unless Johnson was taken out of the attack beforehand.
As I said, cue South Africa's tail sticking around now that I've said that, but it's something that's really stood out for me. He's taken lots of top orders wickets too of course but I actually think this is his greatest utility.
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The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
that's an ugly shot, i'm 50/50 whether Johnson should bowl short at a number 8, but in nowadays with the helmets etc maybe ok
Hooksey
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