***Official*** India in New Zealand 2013/14

[Athlai]

What is the pitch like at Wellington generally?

Typically we get a bit of swing and seam down there but over recent years they've played pretty true throughout the match.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

This doesn't make any sense. The laws of the game are pretty clear, why should they not be enforced if it becomes clear that he hasn't bowled a legitimate delivery?

because the umpire hasn't been enforcing the law throughout, so why should they enforce it once it matters?

 

[Spark]

because the umpire hasn't been enforcing the law throughout, so why should they enforce it once it matters?

...Because it's the law?

 

[OverratedSanity]

Have you ever tried telling whether you are over-stepping or not? If you think you are doing everything absolutely fine, then get robbed of a wicket because the umpire has failed to warn you that you've been over stepping the whole time.

Nah, can't understand this. It happens virtually all th time these days. Front foot no balls are missed all the time. So just because they haven't been called all match, they shouldn't be called when the umpire decides to refer it? Especially when it's a match turning moment. Strange if you're trying to justify the decision.

I'd have had a bit of sympathy for wagner if he'd been called now, but the bigger injustice is obviously to the batsmen being given out off an illegal delivery

 

[OverratedSanity]

because the umpire hasn't been enforcing the law throughout, so why should they enforce it once it matters?

Baffling.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

...Because it's the law?

But it's putting the bowler at a disadvantage to apply the laws inconsistently.

 

[Spark]

But it's putting the bowler at a disadvantage to apply the laws inconsistently.

Well the solution is then to apply it more consistently, not completely ignore it. That's just perverse.

 

[NasserFan207]

I agree with Spark, but I also think its tough on the bowler if he's not being called on it previously. Hard to make an adjustment if you don't know you've made the mistake

 

[GingerBreadMan]

because the umpire hasn't been enforcing the law throughout, so why should they enforce it once it matters?

Wtf are you on about

 

[Spark]

I agree with Spark, but I also think its tough on the bowler if he's not being called on it previously. Hard to make an adjustment if you don't know you've made the mistake

Oh I'm not arguing that the bowler doesn't get a raw deal in all this, but don't see how you can argue that the solution to a badly applied law is to not apply the law at all.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

What is the pitch like at Wellington generally?

A result pitch, weather permitting.

Wind can be a concern for seamers not used to it. Forecast is now set fair, so will probably be **** (Wellington long range forecasts are notoriously inaccurate)

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Well the solution is then to apply it more consistently, not completely ignore it. That's just perverse.

Not saying otherwise.

 

[Hurricane]

Everyone is talking cricket everywhere I go. The blackcaps are capturing the public imagination once again. People who know little about cricket are questioning the decision to not enforce the follow on in general conversations today - and it is brilliant. Havn't seen this level of engagement in the last 5 years.

 

[OverratedSanity]

But it's putting the bowler at a disadvantage to apply the laws inconsistently.

I agree with Spark, but I also think its tough on the bowler if he's not being called on it previously. Hard to make an adjustment if you don't know you've made the mistake

Well yeah but what about the batsman? He's been given out off a technically illegal ball.

 

[Zinzan]

What is the pitch like at Wellington generally?

Just a really good test wicket these days. Plenty of bounce and pace for the bowlers & generally fairly flat. Here's the last test played there in Dec 2nd Test: New Zealand v West Indies at Wellington, Dec 11-13, 2013 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[straw man]

Exactly. To come so close to such massive, important moments and then lose is just gut wrenching.

Easy for me to say but cheer up, India only showed up for the second half of this match and still almost won - they have a big chance at the Basin Reserve

 

[Spark]

Not saying otherwise.

Haha, I completely missed that I was replying to someone else

 

[ajdude]

i've already seen this episode of icc cricket 360 ffs

 

[Daemon]

Well yeah but what about the batsman? He's been given out off a technically illegal ball.

Not to mention the illegal balls he's already faced

 

[NasserFan207]

Well yeah but what about the batsman? He's been given out off a technically illegal ball.

Well I'm agreeing with Spark in that the rules should be enforced, its just a bad situation and is harsh on the bowler. As has been said, its high time a system was developed to catch noballs automatically.