Jarquis
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Try the same law of the game that you cited to Monk the other day when he asked his question
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*Official* Redemption Part 2 at Adelaide
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Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
I had a disagreement with some poster a couple of weeks ago on the value of the ramp shot but I guess there are some players that have success with it......but I swear to god I never want to see Joe Root or Alastair Cook attempt it ever again. The Root wicket was the second time he tried it and both attempts looked hideously ugly and were facepalm fails.......Cooks effort was just as bad. Leave it to the ****y T20 batsmen of the world, these are test standard batsmen chasing 5 an over to win a ODI game......absolutely ****ing awful and Roots wicket cost us the game.
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Why did the swear filter hide the word f.u.n.k.y???
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ajdude
International Coach
it's so we don't talk about colin miller iirc
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
So I'm in a positive mood this morning and am just gonna put this out there......
Anyone that watched the Ashes in England generally accepts that the 3-0 scoreline was flattering to England and the test series was more competitive than that score suggests. I think the same is true of 4-1 in this ODI series and England can take some heart out of the cricket they have played in this format and approach next years World Cup back here with some confidence. As Australia showed in the back to back test series, they went from a team that had forgotten how to win key moments to a team that now doesn't seem to know how to lose them..........If England had of performed a little better in a couple of key passages in this series they would have won it 3-2.
This is just a mental and confidence thing, it has nothing to do with ability and can change very quickly with a change of environment and a couple of wins under the belt.
Anyone that watched the Ashes in England generally accepts that the 3-0 scoreline was flattering to England and the test series was more competitive than that score suggests. I think the same is true of 4-1 in this ODI series and England can take some heart out of the cricket they have played in this format and approach next years World Cup back here with some confidence. As Australia showed in the back to back test series, they went from a team that had forgotten how to win key moments to a team that now doesn't seem to know how to lose them..........If England had of performed a little better in a couple of key passages in this series they would have won it 3-2.
This is just a mental and confidence thing, it has nothing to do with ability and can change very quickly with a change of environment and a couple of wins under the belt.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
There is definitely some basis to that. I guess if we win in Brisbane though, Australia play a stronger team in Perth, and this one, so conceivably could still be 4-1.
I do think there are a lot more positives to take from this, though. The big worry mind you is our performance in close games. Cost us the CT and cost us here.
I do think there are a lot more positives to take from this, though. The big worry mind you is our performance in close games. Cost us the CT and cost us here.
the big bambino
Cricketer Of The Year
Definitely think Eng can be happy about their WC prospects based on this series. Filling out a team around Morgan, Buttler, Stokes is achievable and the way they came back from the Faulkner heroics earlier in this series shows they have a bit of resilience.
Scaly piscine
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Well it's also a Ravi '****house' Bopara thing. They keep picking the sadsack as a 'finisher' then he will keep ****ing up games, most certainly won't rescue any either.
England have the makings of a good ODI side, but they always seem to be in that state.
Spark
Global Moderator
You're forgetting the natural tendency of Ashes winners to play like **** in the ODIs afterwards, though
I don't have any problem with it per se but as with every shot, there's a time and a place. A slow deck, a bowler without much pace, the ball well outside off stump, fine leg on the edge of the circle and having just lost your best bat in an otherwise straightforward chase is not that time or place.
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vic_orthdox
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There are definite benefits to the ramp shot in general, but you don't see McCullum pulling it out till the last few overs and he's the best practitioner.