India, Australia, England attempt to take control of Cricket

[brockley]

The Australian cricketers have been very quiet,they know 1 there is IPL 2 if they play India and England all the time the CA coffers will be full,which means bigger contracts to them.
Just cause the ACA spoke out doesn't mean the Indian,Aussie and England players are not on board with this.
Australian cricketers don't want to play Zimbabwe or Bangladesh neither does the board,Srilanka and the West Indies run at a loss and they always get thrashed.So why would Australia want to play either of them,just means they have to take a big paycut to play them.

 

[Daemon]

Pathetic stuff from Bang Bros! Didn't deserve Test Status in the first place.

BCB chooses not to play Test!

Inappropriate ***ual reference imo

 

[andruid]

Money befor cricket. Yah! They've probable been bribed with endless ODI and T20 tours, what with the FTP now being reduced to bilateral agreements in that draft.

 

[harsh.ag]

Can't think of any ways that this will be good for cricket at large, however hard I try. The only possible way is if the Big 3 really do have the interest of cricket's development at heart.

 

[Garson007]

If independents were running the boards, we'd never come to this

Fixed.

 

[Garson007]

The only possible way is if the Big 3 really do have the interest of cricket's development at heart.

Constitutions elicit hope; governance does not.

 

[M0rphin3]

Pathetic stuff from Bang Bros! Didn't deserve Test Status in the first place.

BCB chooses not to play Test!

BCB steps back supporting ?Big 3? proposal - www.risingbd.com

Also BCB =/= "Bang bros", just like PCB doesn't represent Pakistan fans.

 

[straw man]

Three more articles:
Russell Degnan: Cashing out the future of cricket | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo - same author as the Idle Summers blog someone posted earlier.

ICC news : Ehsan Mani slams 'Big Three' proposal | Cricket News | Cricinfo ICC Site | ESPN Cricinfo

He (Ehsan Mani) also implored the ICC's executive board to look again towards the Woolf Report, the 2012 independent review of ICC governance that was largely ignored after the BCCI rejected its recommendations, many of which have been contradicted by the new proposal. "The Paper raises serious governance issues including lack of transparency and conflict of interest," ... "BCCI, ECB and CA say in the Paper that they will provide greater leadership and stability to the ICC and its Members. In return they ask the Members to hand over powers of the ICC Board to them. They do not demonstrate how they will do this in any meaningful way. They do, however, plan to make significant financial gains for themselves and completely control the workings of the ICC to the exclusion of the other members.

It's amazing just how naked the cynicism is, whether we're talking this new proposal or the burying of the Woolf report.

Sharda Ugra on the big three cricket boards | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

The only two cricket boards in the world who could together call the BCCI's bluff and rally support chose instead to give it credence and even credibility with their spin-doctoring. They jumped onto a runaway train in the hope that, even if they didn't work out a way to control it, at least they could get enough of the loot on board.

This thread is mostly going round in circles now. Last couple of thoughts:
- I'm not completely opposed to the IPL becoming the global domestic+ T20 tournament and having a window in the international calendar. However the BCCI must pay a very significant sum for that privilege - not just the 10% fee paid to each national board for each of that board's players contracted - should be a large flat fee and preferably a % of the gross, not that you could trust the BCCI to report that accurately. And secondly the window must be very firmly fixed at no more than 7 or 8 weeks. Really I have no confidence that the ICC would hold the line on that; it would soon be 10 weeks... then three months etc.
- Posters that live in India; if the main demographic trend in India in the last decade or two and into the future is the emergence of a large middle class, are there signs that test cricket is more popular amongst this group than the general populace?
- It's a shame afaics there are no controls on the BCCI within India - now would be a great time for Srinivasan to be implicated in another scandal or possibly even charged with something that could be made to stick.

 

[harsh.ag]

This thread is mostly going round in circles now. Last couple of thoughts:

- Posters that live in India; if the main demographic trend in India in the last decade or two and into the future is the emergence of a large middle class, are there signs that test cricket is more popular amongst this group than the general populace?
- It's a shame afaics there are no controls on the BCCI within India - now would be a great time for Srinivasan to be implicated in another scandal or possibly even charged with something that could be made to stick.

The emerging middle class prefers ODIs and T20s. Period.

Srinivasan is the Tywin Lannister of cricket. Nobody is taking him down any time soon.

 

[harsh.ag]

Constitutions elicit hope; governance does not.

But since they will have all the power anyway, what the hell does having a good constitution matter? Only hope is governance. Sometimes, just sometimes, authoritarians can have decent governance chops. Nod to China and Dubai.

 

[Shri]

- Posters that live in India; if the main demographic trend in India in the last decade or two and into the future is the emergence of a large middle class, are there signs that test cricket is more popular amongst this group than the general populace?

T20s are simply more convenient to everyone. Test cricket definitely has fans who are students. But once they start working there isn't as much excitement to go attend every game in the stadium and stuff like that. Most of us just follow the score on cricinfo at work and go home and watch the highlights if we are not tired during test matches. So no, if you have started being a worker, T20s in the nights trump test and other forms of cricket. This is all from what I have seen, might be different in other parts of the country.

- It's a shame afaics there are no controls on the BCCI within India - now would be a great time for Srinivasan to be implicated in another scandal or possibly even charged with something that could be made to stick.

Cut off one head and 10 more takes its place and all that.

 

[Garson007]

But since they will have all the power anyway, what the hell does having a good constitution matter?

That's my entire point. A good constitution would never allow the concentration of power.

Only hope is governance. Sometimes, just sometimes, authoritarians can have decent governance chops. Nod to China and Dubai.

I'm sorry. Authoritarianism only works for those at the top.

 

[YorksLanka]

Pathetic stuff from Bang Bros! Didn't deserve Test Status in the first place.

BCB chooses not to play Test!

absolutely disgusted by this decision..agree that it is the death of Bangladeshi cricket..will be even more disgusted if our board goes the same way...money before country

 

[OverratedSanity]

Pathetic stuff from Bang Bros! Didn't deserve Test Status in the first place.

BCB chooses not to play Test!

Wow that's ridiculous.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

The emerging middle class prefers ODIs and T20s. Period.

Srinivasan is the Tywin Lannister of cricket. Nobody is taking him down any time soon.

His Son-in-law might

 

[harsh.ag]

That's my entire point. A good constitution would never allow the concentration of power.


I'm sorry. Authoritarianism only works for those at the top.

That is provably false.

On a side note, I don't understand why the Associate nations don't get to play both the touring side and the home side in practice matches during a tour, instead of a domestic side being given the honours.

 

[straw man]

T20s are simply more convenient to everyone. Test cricket definitely has fans who are students. But once they start working there isn't as much excitement to go attend every game in the stadium and stuff like that. Most of us just follow the score on cricinfo at work and go home and watch the highlights if we are not tired during test matches. So no, if you have started being a worker, T20s in the nights trump test and other forms of cricket. This is all from what I have seen, might be different in other parts of the country.

Thanks - another good argument for day-night tests I guess

 

[Muloghonto]

Thanks - another good argument for day-night tests I guess

Why ? So that Indians can follow test cricket on cricinfo and in-between chores at evening time as well ?

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

The emerging middle class prefers ODIs and T20s. Period.

Srinivasan is the Tywin Lannister of cricket. Nobody is taking him down any time soon.

Ummmmmmm,

 

[NasserFan207]

Its irrelevant, the NHL rules not because North America has the best hockey players, it rules because it has the biggest fan-base and hockey market. Regardless, North America does NOT have the best hockey players. Canada has the best hockey team but then again, demographic and Canadian involvement in hockey is far greater than any nation except Russia. Russians have just as good hockey players, except they fail to function as a team.

FYI, the person to've won the league MVP the most number of times in the last 20 years, is Ovechkin. A russian. He is also the guy to've won most scoring titles in the league in the last 20 years.
The person with the most points in the NHL active today is Jaromir Jagr- a Checz.
The person voted the most valuable defencemen in league history is Niklas Lidstrom, a Swede.
The person to've won the most Vezina trophy- the top goaltenders award in NHL for the last 30 years is one Dominik Hasek, also a Checz.
So much for your theory of 'NA has the best hockey players'.

Canada is part of North America you cretin.

Naming some good players who aren't from that continent is irrelevant, the point is they have more good players than any other nation, couldn't be further from the case with India. Cricket in India sucks to watch too, you barely have any fast bowlers ffs. Pakistan has a better history than India in cricket.

The IPL would suck so much if it was just Indians playing.

Btw I totally agree on T20s being more convenient for a lot of people, its definitely the case for me. Its not a good enough reason to stop playing test cricket though, lol.