Who will play their last test during the Australian Ashes series?

[morgieb]

Over-rated. Doesn't do enough on unhelpful wickets IMO.

 

[morgieb]

Monty perhaps? Might get a go at Sydney but unlikely to be picked for the home Tests - even if Swann were dropped/crocked they could well go with Tredwell as a like-for-like. Don't know if we're touring in Asia at all next winter though.

Carberry yeah, hard to see what he brings that Compton didn't. Guy had earned a chance though IMO.

You aren't playing any Tests full stop in the 2014/15 season. Next Asian tour is to Pakistan (UAE) after the 2015 Ashes.

 

[morgieb]

Anyway, like some others have said, if they're gonna make calls on senior players (i.e. Rogers, Watson, Bailey) it will be after South Africa IMO. Harris could go if he picks up another serious injury, but that's unlikely. Haddin will remain until the World Cup (where he admitted he'll give it up).

For England, it's hard to see Tremlett (lost his nip, a trundler now basically) and Trott (depression, sadly) play again.

 

[benchmark00]

Since when does Trott have depression?

 

[BoyBrumby]

Since when does Trott have depression?

"Stress related illness" is to "depression" as to "enjoys musical theatre" is to "homosexualist"; a euphemism.

 

[benchmark00]

Quality humour aside, stress illnesses can lead to depression in particularly vulnerable people, but they're not the same thing.

A more accurate comparison would be:

"Stress illnesses is to depression what going to the Golden Sheaf is to STI's"

It may lead to it, but it's not a done deal.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Quality humour aside, stress illnesses can lead to depression in particularly vulnerable people, but they're not the same thing.

A more accurate comparison would be:

"Stress illnesses is to depression what going to the Golden Sheaf is to STI's"

It may lead to it, but it's not a done deal.

Well, I'm no psychiatrist (I know, it comes as a shock to many, especially my patients), so what you say is probably technically true, but I think in this case they are synonyms.

There was an interview on Sky immediately after with Trescothick and he pretty much confirmed his own "stress related illness" was just a polite way of describing depression.

In fact, Trott's departure has been openly ascribed to depression up here. Take this article by Kevin Garside in The Independent.

Trott was said to be suffering from stress. So stigmatised is the term “depression” we had to find a polite way of sending Trott home.

 

[benchmark00]

Maybe. Or maybe he just has a stress illness and is managing it so it doesn't lead to depression.

And that's poor from Garside. All of us suffer from some form of stress, but that's different from a stress related illness.

 

[theegyptian]

Stokes imo

Stokes is more likely to play 50+ tests than just the one(or however many he plays in this series).

Tremlett almost certainly won't get another test after this series for England.

 

[wpdavid]

Can't see Tremlett or Trott in an England shirt again after this series.

Agreed. And I'm tempted to agree with the guy who reckons KP might call it a day, especially if we go down 0-5.

 

[Riggins]

Quality humour aside, stress illnesses can lead to depression in particularly vulnerable people, but they're not the same thing.

A more accurate comparison would be:

"Stress illnesses is to depression what going to the Golden Sheaf is to STI's"

It may lead to it, but it's not a done deal.

best thing about sydney imo. dem wednesday nights.

 

[GIMH]

Agreed. And I'm tempted to agree with the guy who reckons KP might call it a day, especially if we go down 0-5.

Us losing would make KP less likely to pack it in IMO. He'd want to be part of the glorious reclamation in 2015.

 

[robelinda]

It took 9 posts for someone to mention Watson. shame on the OP.

 

[Riggins]

because they will keep picking him forever.

 

[Jono]

Over-rated. Doesn't do enough on unhelpful wickets IMO.

Such as?

He's had one series where he averages more than 24.

 

[morgieb]

Such as?

He's had one series where he averages more than 24.

Was pretty mediocre over here, and I thought he wasn't that great in England. I could be wrong regarding the latter though.

 

[Jono]

If this series is Monty's last, they are wasting a perfectly good bowler for an absolute roller in Tredwell. He's a liability in the field, but selectors would be crazy to pass him up for Tredders or Kerrigan. [For all the talk of Monty bowling short (which is inevitable when batsmen use their feet), he still was more economical than Swann and created more chances.] Puts plenty of revolutions on the ball, which compensates for his faster pace. Maybe if Dockrell trades in his passport, skipping Monty makes some sense, but not otherwise.

I don't think this series will see the last tests for most players except one, sadly:
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I know, blasphemy.

You made this post one day before Smith made his ton. Awks.

 

[Spark]

Was pretty mediocre over here, and I thought he wasn't that great in England. I could be wrong regarding the latter though.

Why do people keep saying this? It just isn't true. He wasn't amazing in England but he did absolutely fine IMO

 

[morgieb]

Why do people keep saying this? It just isn't true. He wasn't amazing in England but he did absolutely fine IMO

TBF, I actually had a look at the stats, and he bowled very well there.

Still maintain Harris is a better bowler however, though if I were picking a side I'd probably take Philander.

 

[Jono]

Was pretty mediocre over here, and I thought he wasn't that great in England. I could be wrong regarding the latter though.

One bad test in Brisbane (where no one bowled well) and one solid performance in Perth.

He won South Africa the test at Lord's against England. Outbowled Steyn at Headingley, and wasn't great at The Oval.

If that's the worst of Philander than it just backs up that he is an absolute jet.

Edit: just saw your post acknowledging his England series