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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand 2013/14

Flem274*

Flem274*

123/5
Well that was a good day.
hendrix said:
He has no 3rd gear
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He could get some tips from the English.
Athlai said:
This was my point that Phlegm later stole FTR.
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No it wasn't, and I'll also point out you then go and say...
Athlai said:
That is Taylor matching Fleming's total Test hundreds already. WAG.

ATG for NZ.
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Which is stealing my point from the Bangladesh tour.

Btw boys I listened to talkback for the first time in a while tonight on the drive home. Three callers in and PEWS alter ego from India rings in and pours scorn on the Redmond selection. When asked who he would pick instead, this plonker named George Worker.

And that was how I discovered the Cantabrian Mafia are still alive and well, just waiting for their chance to rise up against the Unholy Alliance.

Cantabrians, honestly.
 
Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
Flem274* said:
Well that was a good day.

He could get some tips from the English.

No it wasn't, and I'll also point out you then go and say...

Which is stealing my point from the Bangladesh tour.

Btw boys I listened to talkback for the first time in a while tonight on the drive home. Three callers in and PEWS alter ego from India rings in and pours scorn on the Redmond selection. When asked who he would pick instead, this plonker named George Worker.

And that was how I discovered the Cantabrian Mafia are still alive and well, just waiting for their chance to rise up against the Unholy Alliance.

Cantabrians, honestly.
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It doesn't count if I'm not "on the forum".
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
NUFAN said:
How about Murali Vijay and Graeme Smith? If you think Fulton's should be higher since he has scored more runs, what about Alastair Cook?
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Come on NUFAN, everyone knows it's based on whoever has the highest average from those with at least 500 runs.
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

123/5
Hopefully Taylor can snare test hundred number 10 in the next two tests. Would love to see him nearing the teens by the end of summer. He's coming into what are usually the best years for batsmen so hopefully he can go big consistently.

Fun fact: This is Taylor's first real bully hundred. Usually he needs to be faced with a good attack or a dire situation to bring his A game. I was a bit worried he wouldn't jump up and down on the West Indian second XI seam attack due to both their lesser quality and coming in when a platform had been set.
 
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Flem274*

Flem274*

123/5
Going back to the world XI scenario briefly, I'm struggling to name anyone younger than Alistair Cook who could be said to be a real beast with the bat. A lot has been made of Australia stuggling to find good young batsmen, but India aside a lot of the new players debuted around the world seem to meet a glass ceiling at an average of about 45, and the Indian boys still have to strut their stuff away from home. Cook, Clarke, Amla, KP etc bridge the gap pretty well between the old guard and the new, but the KWs, Bravo's, Hughes etc need to get their **** together, and I can't think of too many 25-29 year old guns, Cook and AB excepted. We know most of Australia's batsmen in that age bracket (Warner aside) cbf delivering on their potential, but either through chance or otherwise many other sides around the world are a mixture of 30+ experience and under-25s. Taylor is the only specialist batsman in his team who falls into that bracket as well.

Taylor is 29 so he's hovering between the Clarke/Amla etc and Cook/AB so it isn't inconceivable he could sneak in the twilight of his career if he's still scoring runs in his mid thirties. This would require him to deliver on his considerable ability by world standards, not the hated "good by New Zealand standards". He's good at scoring runs under pressure, but he needs to develop his inner downhill skiier and make hay against less incisive attacks in situations which aren't all that frightening. If he can bring some bullying into his game his average will head north pretty quickly. At the moment 8 of his 9 test hundreds were scored when we were under the gun against some very good sides.
 
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Bahnz

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Flem274* said:
Hopefully Taylor can snare test hundred number 10 in the next two tests. Would love to see him nearing the teens by the end of summer. He's coming into what are usually the best years for batsmen so hopefully he can go big consistently.

Fun fact: This is Taylor's first real bully hundred. Usually he needs to be faced with a good attack or a dire situation to bring his A game. I was a bit worried he wouldn't jump up and down on the West Indian second XI seam attack due to both their lesser quality and coming in when a platform had been set.
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The hundred he made against Zimbabwe at Napier was definitely a bully hundred.
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

123/5
He made a ton against Zimbabwe at Napier? Wasn't that just Watling?

Oh right that was when he crocked himself wasn't it? My bad.

Well, long may the bullying continue between the tough tons.
 
CricAddict

CricAddict

International Coach
Flem274* said:
Going back to the world XI scenario briefly, I'm struggling to name anyone younger than Alistair Cook who could be said to be a real beast with the bat. A lot has been made of Australia stuggling to find good young batsmen, but India aside a lot of the new players debuted around the world seem to meet a glass ceiling at an average of about 45, and the Indian boys still have to strut their stuff away from home. Cook, Clarke, Amla, KP etc bridge the gap pretty well between the old guard and the new, but the KWs, Bravo's, Hughes etc need to get their **** together, and I can't think of too many 25-29 year old guns, Cook and AB excepted. We know most of Australia's batsmen in that age bracket (Warner aside) cbf delivering on their potential, but either through chance or otherwise many other sides around the world are a mixture of 30+ experience and under-25s. Taylor is the only specialist batsman in his team who falls into that bracket as well.

Taylor is 29 so he's hovering between the Clarke/Amla etc and Cook/AB so it isn't inconceivable he could sneak in the twilight of his career if he's still scoring runs in his mid thirties. This would require him to deliver on his considerable ability by world standards, not the hated "good by New Zealand standards". He's good at scoring runs under pressure, but he needs to develop his inner downhill skiier and make hay against less incisive attacks in situations which aren't all that frightening. If he can bring some bullying into his game his average will head north pretty quickly. At the moment 8 of his 9 test hundreds were scored when we were under the gun against some very good sides.
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I agree with your post. May be Joe Root apart from the Indian guys.. But the main reason is because, similar to India till recently, the experienced guys are holding all test batting positions, mainly SA and England. So we never know how the young guns will be. Till the Big 5 in India retired, we never knew if the young guys will be replacing them successfully since the No6 position then was always rotated between Raina and Yuvraj.
 
Binkley

Binkley

U19 Captain
Work makes watching cricket very difficult, although the internet and Jeremy Coney are god-sends. Brilliant start to the series for New Zealand though. Any predictions on what the pitch might do? It turned into an absolute road against England, from memory getting more and more road-like as the test wore on. Is there a risk of the same thing happening here? And is this test doomed to a draw, which can be prevented only by one side falling apart completely?
 
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