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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand 2013/14

Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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Flem274* said:
I've had Faulkner described to me as an Australian Franklin so you must really hate Bracewell.
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He's a lot quicker than Franklin these days but gun barrel. He's always been gun barrel too, unlike Franklin who did swing the ball when he was actually a bowler. Left arm Clint McKay is probably better description.

Either way I agree with hendrix that Bracewell is a much better bowler.
 
Bahnz

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
wellAlbidarned said:
The main problem is his lack of movement then. Sammy's had plenty of success around the 120-125 mark so pace isn't much of a contribution to his wicket taking potential.

Currently Best is hovering around 130kph, so it's possible this gun is about 10ks below on average. I agree Sammy is bowling non-threatening rubbish atm but I using the speed gun as justification is stupid imo because they're often pretty arbitrary.
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I wouldn't say he's had plenty of success. He only averages sub-40 against 3 countries (Bangladesh, England and Pakistan). He also used to be quicker than he is now (albeit still sub-130 on average). I agree about not getting too excited about pace, but I think that once you get much below high 120's your wicket-taking ability falls away significantly.
 
NZTailender

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Glad my score prediction was wrong.

Great work to get to their scores so far but really they need to go huge. When was the last time we made 500 in a test?
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

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Prince EWS said:
He's a lot quicker than Franklin these days but gun barrel. He's always been gun barrel too, unlike Franklin who did swing the ball when he was actually a bowler. Left arm Clint McKay is probably better description.

Either way I agree with hendrix that Bracewell is a much better bowler.
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Ta. The funny thing is I watched The Australian bowling during Forkers debut and I either missed him or I plain forgot him. Only really have the derisive descriptions to go on.
 
wellAlbidarned

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
Bahnz said:
I wouldn't say he's had plenty of success. He only averages sub-40 against 3 countries (Bangladesh, England and Pakistan). He also used to be quicker than he is now (albeit still sub-130 on average). I agree about not getting too excited about pace, but I think that once you get much below high 120's your wicket-taking ability falls away significantly.
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yeah I'm not really defending sammy tbh, he's looking shocking.
 
Bahnz

Bahnz

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Probably both just desperate not to give the over **** the satisfaction of scoring more.
 
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Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Flem274* said:
I've had Faulkner described to me as an Australian Franklin so you must really hate Bracewell.
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I don't really see the comparison to Franklin at all, tbh. Apart from being left-armed pace bowling all-rounders, obvs. In FC cricket, I'd be more likely to compare him to the likes of Chris Woakes - bowling not quite up to Test standard but gun at FC level, batting developing remarkably well and the potential to go on and do big things at the highest level.

Bracewell, AFAIC, is living off Hobart and not much else. Yes he was good there, and yes he has the potential to be very, very good. But as a Test bowler he plainly is not good enough right now. You're just as likely to have to carry him through a game as have him perform to the required standard. Faulkner is in the same boat - but has a habit of picking up wickets somehow even if he isn't bowling as well as he should be.
 
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